Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democrat, ripped Donald Trump for his military attack against Iran on Saturday, saying the move is “absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.”
Ocasio-Cortez ripped the president’s action on X, formerly Twitter, and wrote, “The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers. He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.”
On the other hand, Senator John Fetterman, a Pennsylvania Democrat, came to Trump’s side and wrote on X, “As I’ve long maintained, this was the correct move by @POTUS. Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism and cannot have nuclear capabilities. I’m grateful for and salute the finest military in the world.”
What are they gonna do about it? Lawsuit? Lmao
Mussolini got dragged through the streets and him and his gf’s lifeless corpses were hung upside down for all of Rome to see.
Weird fact. Not sure why I’m thinking of it
There is an old quote -
“The plight of the oppressed ends with the oppressor. Mussolini found this to be true, as will others.”
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Now THAT’s a PRIME NUMBER
Thank you for your attention to this matter
Primed & ready, you mean? That part of my math education’s a little hazy. 🙇🏼♂️
Now, I wonder if that weird fact you are thinking of can have you picturing Donald Trump being dragged through the streets with JD Vance and him and his vice president’s lifeless corpses being hung upside down for all the United States to see, in response to him giving the order to bomb Iran without congressional approval. And who here would like to see that actually happening.
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The upside of that was that it put his fellow conspiritors off trying to follow in his footsteps.
It was Milan. Though I’m sure the people of Rome were more than welcome to go see his bespatted husk.
My bad thanks for clarifying!
Not at all.
I only remember because I recently watched that Ordinary Things video about him.
Franco died peacefully in his sleep at the age of 83, a fabulously rich celebrity who was officially mourned by the state for a month.
Spain changed a lot since then thankfully
Keep screaming impeachment when clearly that doesn’t work…he belongs in jail ya know for being a 34 count felon rapist seditionous traitor.
You know that that also did not work, right?
Yes clearly.
America is a shit show. Americans have shown they are ok with this.
Sadly very true.
I like how they pretend if he is not the president it wouldn’t be the same. They lied about WMD in Iraq and went to war in behalf of israel. And the did regime change in Libya, bomb and missions in Somalia and Yemen and not a single word from almost all congress about war crimes in gaza.
Let’s be honest, AIPAC controls all level of governments.
The only issue now, white MAGA, who actually hate Jew, or Russian propagandist are calling him out.
As soon as AIPAC find dirt on them or manage to buy them, the progressive movement will find themselves alone again.
It wouldn’t. Trump can be bought off more easily. Trump literally released a propaganda AI hit piece on Gaza for Israel. Trump is literally illegally detaining protesters for protesting against Israel in universities. People who say Biden would have done the same show how clueless they are, specially now that the differences have shown how stark they are.
WMD in Iraq? Literally Republicans again.
Libya? Literally United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973. Is the organization constantly getting vilified by Israel by their condemnations of it also part of the same grand scheme in your world view?
Somalia? Another Republican president.
Your shotgun argumentation is bad and you should feel bad. AIPAC has a lot of power in the US, but it is not equally present in both parties and it does not manifest in the same way either. The US has bigger problems than AIPAC, but its fascist takeover has probably gone over your head as well.
Yeah you figured out the big secret. The Jews are the secret puppet masters of the world!
That or you’ve become antisemitic. Yeah, that’s probably it.
It is you who think when someone says AIPAC means Jew. Most Jew has nothing to do with AIPAC. Read more about Zionism and their history before and after WWII and read more about different mostly Jew who are on odd with the AIPAC and it’s Zionist views…
One of like 1000 things he’s done in the last few months that was either illegal, unconstitutional, “grounds for impeachment”, or corrupt. 🥱
What are the 999 things he’s done that are illegal, unconstitutional, corrupt or grounds for impeachment in the last few months?
Seriously, one would think with a file that big, collectivists would have reacted in some way, wouldn’t they?
Just an FYI, there is a tracker of current legal cases against the trump admin (over 280 right now), and this doesn’t include much of the daily illegal stuff he does (like this recent attack on another country).
The tracker also doesn’t cover stuff like his scam phone, scam crypto, scam <insert any of the stuff he’s selling>, threats of annexation of other countries, using the white house to sell teslas, arresting people he dislikes, and so on.
There’s probably more than a 1000, now that I think about it. And this is all just from the beginning of the year. If you include his previous term, you could easily add a few hundred more. 🫢
Kendrick Lamar “It’s not enough.” I want him removed and charged for all the harm and civil rights violations and war crimes. No President has ever been held accountable, So you can start with him.
Nixon was. They could have impeached Clinton for Bosnia, but went with lying about adultery.
They could have impeached Clinton for Bosnia
Why? Forgive my ignorance, balkan history is hard.
He violated both UN and NATO charters, iirc. Imo, intervention was necessary, because the Serbs were ethnically cleansing the Croats and Muslims, and Western Europe was dragging feet, but he violated the law and badly mishandled the intervention.
I don’t know for certain, but I think you might be mixing up Kosovo and Bosnia. Because I know he illegally (by international law) bombed Yugoslavia for the Kossovar Albanians (which some argue hastened and exacerbated the ethnic cleansing of the Albanians, which aligns quite well with the timeline, especially considering there was a concrete diplomatic alternatice proposed by both sides), but he got approval for this. Famously, Bernie Sanders voted in favor. So while it should earn him a trip to the Hague, he didn’t violate any domestic laws that I’m aware of.
But again, Yugoslavia in the 90s is crazy complicated, and there’s so much I don’t know, so maybe I’m just completely wrong here.
Maybe, I could have sworn it was Bosnia, and I can’t really research it right now. I have a project to prepare for and settle into, my apologies if I’m wrong.
Fuck Fetterman that piece of shit.
Gotta be a some kind of link between brain damage and rabid conservatism.
Considering that studies have shown that conservatives have smaller regions of the brain than normal in the areas that are attributed to things like empathy and compassion - yes, yes there is.
Boomers and Gen X suffer permanent brain damage due to lead poisoning that directly correlates to their radicalized views.
What explains yours?
weak
There is. You gotta be brain damaged to be conservative.
Naw, you can also just be rich and an asshole. Brain damage is easier to get though
I hope he gets out of politics and gets treatment. I grew up in Pittsburgh and just wince every time I see what he has become. He used to come out to parties in my social group! He was always a spoiled rich kid but this post-stroke John is something else.
Nah fuck his treatment, just get him the fuck out of office. He’s way beyond the point where I care about his personal well-being anymore.
Maybe at the level of the media game, sure, but you absolutely do care if there’s one less crazy person in the world, we all do.
I’m saying this because John was at one time a friend to me. Genuinely I don’t expect you to care about his well-being. I figured that the point of my comment was that he needs to step down immediately; I think people seem to think I’m asking you for sympathy.
If we all do the work on ourselves, the world will look very different in a decade. If we all focus on healing, our earth can heal.
Understandable.
No impeachments until they know they can get a conviction in the Senate, which is highly unlikely.
Besides, an impeachment only makes Peter Theil (Vance’s leash holder) the president, then we’re out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Theil is already president, and probably has been for longer than I care to imagine.
Really? What’s the proof of that?
I would be okay with President Vance. We’d only have to deal with him for a day or two before some MAGAt offed him for daring to replace the God Emperor.
he’s been impeached. what’s another one gonna do except distract everyone while he continues to war?
IMO this is business as usual thinking.
The left needs to push for a vote to get Congress on the record where they stand.
And even if it doesn’t pass, getting some Republicans to vote yes would be a big win and a first step towards checking TACO.
If the senate actually has balls, they can remove him from office. Impeachment doesnt inherently carry consequences. The senate determines consequence
The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, “eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to… no punishment.”
The reason (well, one of the reasons) they don’t do it, is because Trump ignores orders. Meaning: if they want to remove him from office, it would literally come down to sending goons in to physically remove him, and the other goons might resist. It would get ugly.
No, the reason was Reds protecting their guy and refusing to hold him to account. Even if what you suggested were part of their motivation, the optics of Trump refusing accountability and literally being dragged out, hasn’t been paying attention to the optics that Trump himself brings to the US and the GOP, specifically. It’s a pretty shit justification.
The moment they decide he’s removed, he has no authority to stop them from removing him. Sec Serv wouldn’t listen to him. He’d be an 80 year old man hiding behind a door.
Um, *raises hand* point of parliamentary procedure; people are suffering and quite literally dying right now. It’s already extremely ugly.
Yes, but most Democrats in congress are feckless cowards. They don’t want to be seen “instigating” something ugly.
Instead, they’ll give speeches, hold up plaquards, and write firmly-worded letters.
And the Republicans are complicit, so.
The older I get, the more I feel like the Senate is essentially the means through which corporations and the capital class defeat any popular movement. Our Constitution was written mostly by drunk, privileged, rich kids. I think sometimes you can really smell the disdain for lower classes in the way everything is built.
Caesar felt the same way.
Can’t believe I lived to see the fall of the Republic and rise of the TACO Triumvirate 🥹
Elon Musk is not Pompey.
Elon would probably think he’s Crassus, except no one actually likes him.
I guess, but I am referring more to that there should only be a House of Representatives, and that the Senate serves no purpose other than to represent corporate interests and tamp down on popular sentiment.
The whole lot, with very few exceptions do.
And I’m saying that Ancient Rome only had a senate (no house or senate branches) and their corruption reached a point to where the ideal of a dictator was an improvement over the status quo.
Many Americans thought this. But the best they could come up with was Trump???
So long as there are classes then so it will be.
The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, “eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to… no punishment.”
Not quite. The first two times were like a grand jury returning an indictment. That’s the House’s part of the equation. They have a vote requiring 50% of members to vote to impeach the president, effectively indicting him. The Senate then has to hold a trial that which takes a 67% vote to convict him and remove him from office.
Saying he has been impeached twice but not removed from office is the equivalent of saying someone has been indicted twice but not convicted. He hasn’t yet been convicted.
Well it’s not like Congress is busy approving or funding a war. They’ve got time.
With three, stamps, you get a free impeachment.
Israel is quite literally the world’s biggest terrorist nation state. The paper thin transparent spin tactics of Israel’s defenders would be amusing if the results of its terrorism wasn’t so horrifying.
I’m not sure it’s Israel, but they and the USA are vying for that spot.
It will never happen. Instead, thousands will die (mostly innocents) and Americans will never get healthcare. EU will be a good lapdog and lick USA’s balls asking for more.
I hate this timeline.
If I were Iran right now sitting on (mostly destroyed) stockpiles of enriched uranium which can’t easily be turned into weapons-grade, I would be organizing dirty bombs going off in every world capital I could get agents inside.
Make no mistake, US and EU will be paying for this decision for decades to come, and we will deserve everything we get. May some god have mercy on our souls, because our owner class will not.
Sorry but EU is neither a lapdog nor responsible for the disaster you voted for. We aren’t really asking for much these days, either. Business is good and new deals with China are boosting the economy.
Thankfully you’re not in charge of Iran.
The left can never pass up fighting a battle they’ll lose.
“He’s guilty of crimes. He should be prosecuted for those crimes.”
“You stupid idiot leftists. Don’t you realize opposing rich people never works? Just brown nose them so you can become one somebody. That’s the real ticket.”
There are twice as many NFL players on their standard rosters than there are billionaires in the U.S.
Mathematically the ~850 billionaires make up 0.00025% of the population.
The average person is about 22 times more likely to get struck by lightning than to become a billionaire.
There’s a lot of people trying that brown nosing tactic, yet don’t realize there isn’t room on the roster for infinite members, there is a fairly finite amount of funds, and for someone to move up, the money has to come from others. Roughly the net worth of 5,000 U.S. families given to one person. But in reality, the devaluing of wealth from near every individual in the U.S. so they can have it.
You make progress by fighting the battles you can win. Fighting battles you can’t win is all about getting attention and accomplishing nothing.
The US is 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
I don’t disagree that bombing Iran puts us at risk of starting a war we don’t want to be involved in. However I think the public is too split on the matter to put majority support behind impeachment.
Conservative circles themselves appear divided with some saying the display of force was necessary and avoided direct conflict (minimizing operational costs), some saying the President is authorized to conduct these actions under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, and some voicing dissent or disapproval altogether of this action.
The War Powers Resolution will probably be the loophole that conservative outlets use to claim that Trump has done nothing wrong. I don’t know if there’s been an exercise of this authority without congressional approval that has lead to the targeted country declaring war as a result. If this were to happen, maybe there will be clear grounds to impeach, but I don’t think the public will display a majority support for it to happen.
I agree that for practical purposes there is not the support for impeachment. But I do think that every unconstitutional thing he does should be called out with the simple but direct message that ‘impeachment and removal is the only remedy to a corrupt and unconstitutional POTUS’. We should say that over and over and over so that takes on its own meaning and the public is ready for it when sentiment inevitably brings us to the point it is actually possible.
Would love for something to happen, but we all know nothing will.
