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      Generally not how polling works, only 34% approved and the remainder is just no response.

      75% of Republican respondents approved of the National Guard deployment, only 68% for the Marines deployment.

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    A lot of people are only seeing very sensationalized edited media about this and thinks the protests are way worse and more violent than they actually are.

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    This country continues to depress me. It really should be way higher.

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      It’s going to be interesting to see the reaction on the ones who approve when Trumpflation really gets going because farms can’t hire enough workers to pick their fields and work their cattle and poultry mills.

      Good time to plant a victory garden. You’re gonna need it.

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      Well, remember George Carlin when he said something along the lines of “Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half the population is dumber than that.”

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      Probably more, some that are mentally challenged awknowledge Trump is terrible, they are just mentally challenged in a nother way.

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    There’s something that needs to be done, and that something is drastic, and a lot of people don’t want to hear, or see it. But we can’t keep going forward as a country where more than half of people are violent sociopaths, or enablers of the latter.

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      That every American doesn’t approve of Trump’s handling of protests is shameful.

      Quite the contrary. But looking at your post history, I wonder whether you accidentally said the opposite of what you meant.

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        I meant that it’s shameful that not all Americans disapprove of the Trump fascist regime. I seem to have been grammar challenged.

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    Nearly half of Americans don’t understand that when an illegal and immoral tactic is used against someone you don’t like, it can then be used against you too. Dumb fucking Americans.

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    So over half of Americans aren’t concerned with accelerating authoritarianism? Great.

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        Yes over half. If nearly half of respondents disapprove, than the other over half either support it or don’t care enough to oppose it, which is to say they aren’t concerned about it.

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      They will be, when it affects them personally.

      In other words, typical Republican thinking.

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        Quote my boss, a Mexican living in southern California.

        “Fuck the Mexicans and fuck la kill them all they deserve it” He has also expressed explicitly that trump has done nothing wrong, and that he will only care if he is personally effected.

        The cast majority of everyone i work with has opinions in line with that. The majority of people I work with are Mexicans.

        It’s been baffling watch them all cheer over the protesters getting shot or arrested. Just because it’s LA and there’s a weird hate boner for LA and San Francisco around here.

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        There’s a meme out there that goes something along the line of “Nothing Ever Happens”. This line of thinking is poison, as it doesn’t take into account incrementalism. The fall into fascism isn’t a single large step, it’s many small steps until one day you’ve realized that you’re no longer in the same place that you were, and that now, you’re lost.

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    That’s a lot of people who saw a reporter get shot and went “I’m cool with that”.

    I’m joking. Most of them probably aren’t paying enough attention to have seen that.

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      Most Americans probably haven’t even seen the video. The average person is unbelievably clueless. My friends Instagram reels is animated screaming cucumbers and more brain rot. 0 news, 0 information, just straight retardation. Each of our media spheres is individually tailored and that is a massive problem when it comes to getting people on the same page.

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        I feel like most of my friends follow the news, but I bet you’re right that most people are just in a haze of screaming cucumbers.

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      There’s always a good percentage that are indifferent or “don’t know”. But they’re no help.

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          The people that don’t care will continue to not care until it affects them directly. Even with the tariffs it won’t matter until what they’re actually buying gets hit by the price hikes. Even then they may not even be paying enough attention to their finances to notice.

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            And even if they express disapproval they will vote or not vote in the same manner because the other side is worse or both are bad.

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      Per the article:

      47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.

      45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.

      That leaves 19% and 17% that are undecided. The question for those would be are they uninterested or uninformed?

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      To be fair here and without looking up numbers, such polls tend to often show the same pattern. Something like 45% A, 30% undecided, 25% B.

      So when “nearly half” disapprove it can still mean “a majority” does.

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          Okay, then let me rephrase it: When “nearly half” disapprove it can (and probably does) mean that there is still no majority (or plurality) approving, which is what OP falsely concluded.

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      This is exactly what happens with democratic societies. Majority somehow can decide for the rest of sane people how to live, behave and be quiet when you think differently. People have been trained to stick with a herd. Anarchy has a lot of advantages to it. Individual decisions matter as long as you apply Non Aggression Principles. Anarchy doesn’t mean no rules, but no rulers. People don’t create wars, governments do. Government robs you by the way of taxation for everything and then create crazy national debts and tax you even more (tarrifs). The previous ruler (Biden) brought all these migrants over and current Mango Mussolini created a solution enforcing real IDs, biometric scanning, total surveillance of your personal wallet. Soon enough CBDC will be introduced. There is no deep state, there is only the state and two party illusion.

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        This is exactly what happens with democratic societies

        No. This is what happens when you have two sides, both too large to really represent anyone, battling for a sliver of majority using increasingly diverging views and then exercising as much power as they can before the roles flip again.

        In an actual democracy representatives of the people, with many differing views, sit down together and decide case by case on a solution that most can be happy with.

        Someone will always disagree with any decision when we live in a large society, but a functioning democracy is the closest thing we have ever come to making sure that as many as possible are happy (and more importantly get a say).

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          Unfortunately exactly this outcome is the inevitable result of a FPTP voting system combined with political parties. The most stable arrangement of such a system is a two party system, and once it reaches that point the winning party becomes the one willing to take the most extreme position from the other party.

          The only way to fix this is to do away with FPTP and replace it with a proportional voting system that will allow for multiple political parties to be viable and encourage the major parties to seek moderate positions rather than extremes.

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            Absolutely agree! First past the post will always drift toward larger and less representative parties. Even proportional representation can have this tendency, but it is much more resilient.

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            Indeed! And they do under representational democracies. In a community there will always be some sort of law or code, whether written or not, that some members of that community disagree with.

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              I didn’t vote in “selection”. Cause I can’t let someone else to decide how I should live. Involuntarily taxation is theft. No victim - No crime!