• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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      Was more than 20%. Battery life was like 2.5 hours on Windows and about 7 on Linux (on an undemanding game)

      Presumably Windows is pricking about in the background, and not letting it go into an energy saving mode.

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    First thing I would do if I got that thing would be to wipe it and install SteamOS on it for the best user experience. Way better and faster than whatever garbage micro$oft put on it.

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    Interesting. Obviously Valve has them spooked. When was the last time MS came out with a product that at least made an appearance of caring about what users want?

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      Is this really that though? They’ve called it an Xbox and it only runs PC games.

      It’s not even their own hardware. Replacing Explorer.exe with a custom launcher is an absolute bare minimum effort.

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      Honestly if I was them I would be very worried. As people move away from the Microsoft ecosystem Microsoft slowly loses control of the market.

      The Steamdeck is flying off the shelves. I hope that many other companies start going Linux outside of value as the more companies involved the less likely one will ruin everything.

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        Not even sure they care any more. They make so much money from corporate Office use and Azure that everything else could disappear tomorrow.

        Half the world went from applications to web based stuff years ago. Them and Amazon are now running most of that, regardless of you using Windows or Linux.

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        The Windows ecosystem is an abominable pile of half-finished apps and dark patterns that should be slam dunked into the trash. The problem is in the leadership that is laser-focused on milking business users who are used to Microsoft’s abusive practices.

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          It would of been smart to redo the whole thing and start over after they said windows 10 would be the last windows…

          Fuck compatibility and just start over with windows 2… Get rid of the bloat and crap… But yeah that would actually make more sense than making more profit…

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              I don’t know if this is hard to wrap your head around… So you take all of the windows versions that currently exist and that is version one… And you start over from scratch with a brand new version maybe I don’t know a version two?

              Because they probably still have code from the original version of windows running…

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                The screenshot I showed you IS windows 2. Maybe you are a bit too daft or I was a bit too pedantic for your smooth brain. In any case you were extremely rude.

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                  Good job reading… If you group all the current versions of windows together that would be windows version one… And then you start over in version two not worrying about compatibility issues… It’s not that hard to understand but I guess people don’t know how to read

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      Charge it in the morning and it’s dead when you go to use it. Good news is: your bag is nice and warm now. That’s what you wanted, right? … right?

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    Compared to the usual game console os windows offers a A LOT of freedom, just because you personally hate windows does not make the statement any less true.

    Plus if it runs windows then it will also run linux. So do like you would with every other pc on the market and install what you want.

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      And compared to a naked mole rat I have a pretty face, but that’s not a particularly useful comparison, is it?

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      And how long is that freedom going to last until Microsoft attempts to lock it down like they tried with Windows 8?

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      Compared to the usual game console os windows offers a A LOT of freedom

      Compared to the usual jail cell, the prison yard affers A LOT of freedom, just because you personally hate prison does not make the statement any less true.

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      No. When Microsoft is making the hardware, they can lock it down so nothing else can be installed. Mostly with signed boot loaders and drivers.

      Remember when the PS3 actually allowed other operating system installations. Then, one day, they pushed out a new firmware that disabled that ability.

      Maybe eventually someone figures out a hack. But these days, the hacks are complex enough, with many other available alternatives, that you’re looking at barely dozens of people doing it.

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      OK, but the logical comparison here is not the OS on Switch, Xbox, PlayStation or any generic handheld, it’s to SteamOS, where Windows struggles to compete.

      Like everyone else who “chooses” Windows, ROG has surrendered to what’s the default. Never mind that Windows has spent decades to position themselves that way through incentive, obstacle, and plain old coercion.

      I don’t expect you to care about Microsoft’s business practices, but you ought to care that they didn’t achieve or maintain their market position by creating good software or giving a tiny shit about user freedom.

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    “Device battery life is like air conditioning. It becomes useless once you open Windows.”

    • somebody
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      Well that’s a cooler slogan at least compared to the retro one, how’d it go…

      “Live in your world, play in our walled garden locked behind a PSN account that might suddenly withdraw access to things you paid for while shuffling different tier systems and prices around and remember the BMG music rootkits? That was fun.”

      … Or something like that, it’s been so long.

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    Let’s see if they can optimize W11 for this and challenge SteamOS 💪

    Even if I root for Linux, competition is always good and drives Innovation.

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      Linux is free, so it’s not like they care too much about competition. It may put some pressure on SteamOS, but I doubt it as it is already way better than W11 for handhelds.

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        Last time I checked Valve controls a lot of the ecosystem. Right now Value is a pretty good company but if they get to much control they will follow the pattern of enshitification. Lots of options is good.

        Right now I use a lot of Gog as there isn’t any DRM.

        • Valve will not change at least as long as Gaben is in command, and since it’s a money printing machine for the owner I’m pretty sure it will stay consumer friendly for quite a bit longer than Gaben. Enshittification is a direct consequence of a company being beholden to shareholders more than anything else, and in this case there are none.

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            It’s the personality change of the owner. From being happy with making a crap ton of money per year to now wanting to see the profit increase 10% every year.

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              Thats usually a consequence of fiduciary responsibility, no? If you’re not publicly traded, you have no such chains. Valve is privately held, and therefore untouchable in that regard. They also release their software to the public pretty often (OpenXR for VR, indirectly contributing to the Wine project via Proton, and now TF2 with a non-commercial license).

              Unless the next head of the company makes an IPO, the path seems steady. And even if the IPO occurs, the momentum is already kickstarted, and we have access to the fruits of their labor (funded by our game purchases).

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        In a way, streaming platforms aren’t truly competition because they’re founded on the idea of exclusivity. If they all had the same content, it would be good for the consumer.

        As always, copyright rules cause innovation to be slowed, exactly the opposite of what capitalists claim.

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          That’s actually a good point and I hadn’t thought of that before. A bajillion streaming services would be fine if they all had the same content.

          Music streaming services seems more like true competition. For the most part, they all have the same music.