Assist with WHAT?
Occupation.
Correct answer. The fascists in charge want to do to California what Israel is doing to Gaza.
Not American and maybe I’m just OOTL but this confuses me as well… I’m aware of a peaceful protest against the mass deportations, but what else? Why do they need armed soldiers??
To prove empirically that he is a king and the constitution is dissolved.
It’s the next step in his takeover. He already controls the government. He controls business through tariffs. Now he needs to control the people.
Once he’s got control internally, he’ll turn his eyes to other countries. What we’ve seen so far with his threats will become reality as he annexes Canada, Mexico, and Greenland to secure natural resources and wages a full economic war on anyone else who challenges him (China, EU)
It’s pretty textbook rise of Nazi Germany 1930s. None of this should be surprising.
Yeh as a Canadian I’m pretty sure we’re next after he crushes the democratic states. Can’t build an empire without conqueting your neighbours.
We don’t. This is all for Trump to wave his dick around
“Assist” is doing some heavy lifting there…
They should refuse the orders and arrest Trump and everyone else involved in this shit. Which includes a lot of the administration.
Traitor president.
The sooner Americans learn to accept this is the historical event currently unfolding, the sooner we can take care of him and his enablers.
I keep seeing people talking about the Marines and the National Guard being deployed, and this is certainly egregious and the blame for it rests squarely on Trump’s head… But I have not seen many people mention that the LAPD are not being deployed by Trump. They are being deployed by Californian Politicians, and from the livestreams and videos I’ve seen, the police are the ones shooting LTL rounds and flahsbangs at civilians and reporters. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that the police response has been unacceptably violent, national guard or not. It is the violence from the police that has historically, and will in this instance as well escalate the situation.
I think LAPD are essentially their own political institution, barely accountable to civilian or elected leadership
Trump is a traitor.
shithole country
The president deploying the national guard, let alone the fucking MARINES, to “assist police” is a direct violation of the posse comitatus act, which was written to SPECIFICALLY PREVENT ANY PRESIDENT from using the military as law enforcement
Trump has been using the Constitution as toilet paper with zero consequences. Why do you think he cares about this?
We know who is really behind this stuff: Russell Vought.
The remaining question is: how to make it look like a suicide?
The “police” are already illegally supporting ICE in their sanctuary city.
Pigs are always class traitors
Doesn’t matter if it’s illegal, if there’s no consequences
This is what so many people fail to understand.
When your boss steals $100 from your paycheck, you’re supposed to file a wage claim, wait years for your day in court, and even when you show that the company stole from you, the punishment for them is a small fine ($50 per person first time, $100 per person every time after that). You don’t even get the fine. The fine is paid to the state.
Now flip it around and imagine what happens when you steal $100 from the company. Immediate legal repercussions, multiple court dates, probation if you’re lucky and jail if you’re not.
The entire system is designed to fuck people as hard as possible while reserving the kid gloves for corporations and oligarchs.
I am gleefully awaiting the day protesters start disappearing federal agents/national guard. Fuck all fascists, even the ones “just following orders”. No habeas corpus is a two way street motherfuckers
This
Well, it actually does matter this time around. I think this is going to come back to Trump if we make it through long enough. California doesn’t fuck around.
Every military and law enforcement member needs to understand right now that attacking protesters for exercising their First Amendment rights is crossing a line that they can never come back from. I, for one, will always hold it against any MAGA for the rest of my life. They deserve to be mercilessly shunned, ridiculed, and discriminated against for the rest of their miserable, stupid, treasonous lives. I own a business, and I will never hire a MAGA supporter, ever.
I’ll add to this do not go on vacation to any red state. Do not buy goods from red states whenever possible
Trump left his tinydick phylactery in Los Angeles and sent the people who would have been correctly convicted at the Nuremberg Trials to try to find it, but he has to keep sending more because it is so small.
This took less than 3 days.
Less than 3 days of mild protest in one city and Trump is saying the governor needs to be arrested and is using the military against civilians.
This wasn’t even classed as a riot.
In one neighborhood of that city.
This weekend is the totally not celebrating the rapist in chief’s birthday military parade.
There are… a LOT of concerns that is just an excuse to militarize DC ahead of midterms.
But yeah. That also means trump wants protests to go away NOW and an excuse to attack California always makes him happy.
Hasn’t there been national guard, and a literal wall around the white house for the last decade?
There are military resources available and heightened security around the white house. In a country where children either buy an AR-15 or get shot by one, that only goes so far.
Contrast that with an actively deployed and on guard… guard. Protests in DC will become next to impossible and “dissenting” congress people will be much less likely to ever try to get a photo op while pretending they care about stopping doge et al.
That’s because it was nothing on Saturday. Trump sends in the National Guard and they make a lot of smoke. There were 3 or so waymo fires and some cop cars damaged. Protesters were hit by rubber bullets a lot though.
See for yourself.
Saturdays Live Streams:
- NBCLA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MfqiO3QQk
- ABC7- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdPTnHNEUiE
Sunday’s Live Streams:
- AP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXT945ZJNCI
- Reuters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSNMZEjRBsk
- Agenda-Free TV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BrsI2vVHKA
- AXN News (?) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmwdCmOkdQ
The Silver Lining: Media coverage of the extensive protests in every city in America has been so light, that some people are asking why nobody is doing anything. Meanwhile Millions of people are protesting across America. Some protests have been higher than 5 million nationally, and they are growing. At 12 million, we reach 3.5%, which experts say is the threshold for a “tipping point,” which leads to trends like revolutions.
But since the media isn’t covering it, most people have no idea how much is happening. That is, until HitlerPig and The MAGA Morons hit the stage and start puking all over everybody. THAT makes the news, and now EVERYBODY knows about the protests.
Somebody should explain the Streisand Effect to these jokers.
That’s really interesting, where did you read about that tipping point. I’d love to know more if you have a recommendation.
Two books:
Mark Penn’s Microtrends: The Small Forces Behind Tomorrow’s Big Changes
Malcolm Gladwell’s Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference
I especially like Gladwell’s book, and his other books as well. Blink is another favorite of mine. I haven’t read Penn’s book in a long time, it may be getting a little dated.
I read Gladwell already, which has its issues but taking at face value with a pinch of salt is good. I’ll check out the other one, thanks!
No, someone should definitely not explain it to them, lol.
Article 4 of the Constitution, they can’t take your house to do anything.
Seems the Constitution has been suspended.
All but the 2nd amendment, maybe 14th too
Officially using the military against civilians. Yup we’re cooked
There are several historical examples where a dictator tells the military to shoot civilians, they say no, and the regime collapses.
The world is also filled with governments that ordered the military to shoot civilians and are still comfortably in power. No country is immune to authoritarianism, the US is not exceptional.
The US is just exceptionally good at being a dictatorship.
part of the problem is this absurdly naive optimism everyone has. people need to start being more fucking pessemistic and angry.
On the contrary, people are pessimistic as hell. Source: this thread.
Yeah, really if anything we need optimistic and angry
those don’t go hand in hand. ever.
If that were true, no revolution would have succeeded, ever. You don’t win if you don’t believe you can.
Don’t worry. All the heroic men and women in the armed services will decide THIS oppression of a civilian populace is too much and some of the officers will resign. Then, in just a decade or so, they’ll have O-5s who are only qualified to be O-3s and it will all come crashing down! And if you disagree, you are just a doomer!
Yeah… This does not end well in any conceivable way.
Did Trump declare martial law while I was asleep? Because last time I checked, he can’t deploy the military on US soil unless the country is in a state of emergency. And peaceful protests don’t count.
since when does it matter what the law says? he’s been breaking the law every single day since he took office. nobody is gonna intervene.
Almost everything Trump has attempted to do, has to some extent, been blocked in the courts. Sometimes temporarily…other times completely. And the temporary blocks are all still active cases, that stand a good chance of getting permanently blocked in the future.
The problem is, the media isn’t covering that enough. They like the drama…so, all they report in is the shit that gets clicks. And boring court details don’t attract a lot of interest. Especially considering that by the time anything is resolved, the news steam has long since moved on to other, more recent scandals.
Until one of the other branches of government decides to grow a spine, Trump is free to do whatever he wants.
Or the people.
The people can’t do much against an MQ-9 reaper, much less strategic bombers that can fly well higher than civilian aircraft.
If it comes to something like Red Dawn, we are fucked.
“The people” aren’t going to engage in traditional warfare against the undivided might of the US military. If there is armed resistence it’s going to be attacks on individuals and sabotage/explosives, and it’s going to divide the armed forces.
he doesn’t need to apparently.
Well, he IS the king of America (and Canada, Panama and Greenland), so why would he need approval?
I don’t condone deploying the military, its illegal, but burning waymo’s isn’t peaceful.
The people setting those fires should absolutely be charged for their actions. But their actions don’t negate the Constitutional rights of everyone else who is protesting. And calling in the National guard before the local authorities have declared the situation to be out of their control, is a direct violation of Constitutional law.
Agreed that the national guard shouldn’t have been deployed as well. I’m just saying they aren’t peaceful.
But, when you say, “they”…you are painting the entire protest as violent, unless you make the distinction that it isn’t. And the vast majority of protestors are simply exercising their 1st amendment rights, in a perfectly legal manner.
I never said they were violent, I haven’t heard of anything violent (edit: from the protesters) yet personally. There’s a difference between peaceful, not peaceful, and violent.
If there’s enough bad actors doing things like setting cars on fire, then it warrants a larger police presence (but not the national guard at this level or ever the military)
Edit: Just to add clarity, it warrants a larger police presence, because they are in fact no longer peaceful. Sure most people are, but the protest itself isn’t.
Waymo’s are ultimately used for surveillance to intimidate protesters. Ideally they wouldn’t get burned, but at this point they have chosen to side with authoritarians (tho that is expected of corporations)
I’d love to see proof that Waymo is providing live footage to the police to help manage the protests if you have it. That’s pretty fucked up if true. (edit: Burning is still bad, but I’d be down for defacing (e.g throwing paint on it) if so.)
Granted, this is not about the protest, and it is too early for that footage to be used so far. Still we know the current admin is not happy about any protest and was elected on themes of revenge. It is worth taking steps to protect protesters from being targeted in the coming days and weeks.
I think it comes down to did waymo freely provide it (article doesn’t say up to where it wants me to sign up) or did the police have a warrant.
If they have a warrant, I think that’s legitimate. I don’t think Waymo should be responding to police requests without a warrant though, otherwise it will breed distrust, and rightfully so.
The police have been known to demand footage from Tesla’s in the area of crimes as well, again as long as its with a warrant, or the individual owner decides to provide it, I think that’s fine. I want to make the distinction that if an owner of a car that has cameras wants to provide it, i think that’s okay, but as a corporation, with a fleet of vehicles, that should never happen without a warrant.
Impressive how the troll farms always manage to put one “yeah people were hurt but what about property?!” in every thread about our pigs.
