Mom says it’s my turn to post this next week!
Yeah but the vandal does vandalize. In my country there are tons of shitheads who like to see the world burn and destroy someone else property when nobody is around. Like in some neighborhoods in certain cities you can’t have a mini library in your front yard, since a certain type of teenager will ransack it and set the books on fire.
We do this at a used book store. It’s books that we don’t think we can sell inside for whatever reason, and we put them on shelves outside. There’s a big awning so they don’t really get rained on unless it’s raining sideways. We sell them for a dime or a quarter, and there’s a slot for overnight drops in case people want to get books at night. Every morning there’s at least a couple of bucks from the previous day/night.
We donate the proceeds to public radio, and over the years we’ve donated over $100,000.
Which store is this? It sounds like a great place to hang out.
The fence? He is friends with the thief and the reader.
I have stolen books and then read them, so …
That’s not nice. Please don’t do that.
You suck
I think that’s just one way of saying they’re not prints worth stealing
One persons treasure is another’s trash. I have bought books for a dime that I treasure.
i do think you’re wrong, but I am not willing to spend time to prove it so yeah i agree with you.
At one point you could get swaths of ebooks on pirate bay. Probably still could. With seeders. Soo…we know that’s not true.
piracy is not the same as stealing. You having a copy of a bible as a PDF is fundamentally physically different from having a physical book.
Publishers have perverted the concept of ownership by hiding the fact that there is no scarcity of digital items compared to physcial ones.
I’m tired of people pretending like piracy does no harm.
If 100% of readers pirate an authors book, they get 0% income. It really is that simple.Pirate your shit if the publishing sucks, but also support the author.
Donate, buy their merch, buy the ebook of their site directly.Don’t be a cunt.
For 99% of piracy cases if piracy wasn’t an option people would simply not get the product.
People who pirate in my experience typically do so because they would never have bought the thing otherwise. Pirates are enabled by technology to have things they wouldn’t otherwise get to have. There isn’t often any “lost sale.” Only free advertisement.
It’s absolutely not that fucking simple. There are so much of economics you are glossing over, and why basically all creators don’t oppose piracy, just the labels, publishers, owners… The meatheads…
You disagree that 0 purchases result in 0 revenue?
Please show your math on thisYep I make games for instance, 0 revenue for my studio, publisher and owner and steam and yadda takes everything. Zero point zero dinaros for me.
What does your example studio being bad at making deals have to do with piracy exactly?
It just doesn’t work like that. In any creative endeavours almost all income is investors that then own the product. Your salaries are speculation and if you get a commission you are very lucky and in the 1%
Its OK to admit you know nothing about it instead of bicker and gnab because you always know better as a professional guesser
piracy causes harm to the concept of projected profits and “lost sales” which are neither rooted in reality nor coming from a well grounded expectation of success.
Being greedy causes all this entitlement to things that “could have happened”
OK, but there are barriers of entry to piracy. You have to be tech literate enough to know what to do, and you have to be on top of the latest developments to know where to even go to get the files… and you must have heard about the book from somewhere, presumably some people had to buy and read it first.
There will never be a text published with 100% piracy rate. It’s a fantastical scenario.
Right but it’s still not stealing any more than those little library boxes people put outside their residence
Depends. They certainly lose a potential sale from some people, but many people who pirate books never would have read it if they needed to pay for it. Be that because of a lack of money or a lack of interest. Same with games and shows. So no lost sales there.
You could even argue that pirating helps with sales by causing people who never would have read the book otherwise to discuss it with friends or strangers online. I personally think that argument is a big stretch, but it’s not entirely wrong.
But yeah, more pirates should be willing to support authors of books they like. If you think they deserve it, buy the ebook even if you’ve already read the whole thing.
HBO knows the benefits of pirating. For many of their shows, they tend to be very lax about allowing trackers and streams for the first episode of a season, but then militantly take down everything for the second episode. Of course you can still find episode 2 if you know where to look, but the point is it’s harder. They want people to view the first episode and get hooked, and then pay for a subscription when they can’t find the next one.
Both points are true. Honestly, I pirate stuff wildly, but donate to the authors or buy their stuff and donate it to my local library if I like it enough.
They should learn to read and find out the shit Sheherazade said about them.
The epubs in my PIRATED MEDIA folder begs to differ
Piracy is not theft. You have not deprived anyone of something they would otherwise have.
I have deprived the authors and publishers and bookstores of the money they would’ve made.
One cannot be entitled to castles in the air just because they imagined it.
edit: if some person spent some effort and got a copy online for free, were they ever considered to be a prospective customer in the first place?
Libraries, lending to a friend, donating to someone, buying used… All the same as piracy?
Libraries pay for their books.
A fraction of what an author makes through selling. And libraries end up selling those books after some time anyway, “ripping off” the author twice.
I think we all need to realize that there are so many things we do that could be compared to piracy, yet piracy is the one that’s made to look like the worst thing you can do. It really isn’t.
The picture clearly shows a 2nd hand book market. No money is going to the authors or publishers there either.
I have a physical book collection worth thousands of dollars. The only party that has profited off me is Elsevier.
Thousands of dollars for your books? Three books hardly counts as a collection.
Hah. Our textbook market isn’t quite as captured. They run from $50-$350. I have about 100 textbooks and a bit under 200 books total.
Debatable.
If I did not have the money to pay for the books or they are too hard for me to find then no loss would have occurred because purchasing was never happening.
If I did have the money and the books were eaay to find but still pirated then a loss did occur.
You were never gonna buy all those books in the first place.
This. As a hillbilly with no access to books growing up, with my education practically stopping at the 4th grade and no stores in sight to purchase books from, I would have never had access to the things I read without piracy.
I half believe that’s why it’s an issue in the first place.
I started my reading adventure at 640x480 on windows 98.
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But the arsonist, tho…
This is clearly a indoor Bazar with doors that lock on both ends, they leave them out cause it’s not technically outside and ain’t nobody breaking in to steal some books, shits heavy and probably doesn’t sell for all that much on the black market
Yeah it’s a cute quote but that’s obviously not outside. Jeez
Here people even “steal” books from public bookcases and sell them.
For people who aren’t familiar, let me explain: These public bookcases are a weatherproof shelf, old phone booth or something in the streets. The concept is you can take any book and leave any book. There are no written rules and you can keep a book if you like or just read it and put it back. In recent years people started to scan the barcodes and checked what books they can sell. There is a debate going on if people should mark these books or not, so they can’t be sold.
Who tf is buying normal books from the local black market in 2025 is my real question here
It’s more of an online market. eBay, Amazon to a certain extent, there’s loads of book specific ones and some that are for used items generally and allow books. And unless marked it’s not the black market at all. I mean obviously the book is stolen, but it’s just entering the used market as opposed to being sold through a fence or whatever
The climate isn’t good enough for this where I live all the books would get ruined
I live in SW Finland on the coast of the Baltic Sea. It’s wet and cold 90% of the year.
We still have this sort of book exchange in the entrance way to my local shop. A tiny bookshelf/night desk. Not too common though, I can’t think of any others right now.
But like the weather shouldn’t be the issue, that’s just an engineering problem at that point. I imagine like a glass doored fridge with some dehumidifiers placed inside should probably work in most places to protect books.
I’m in the UK and these are all over the place, especially in more rural areas, and we’re famed for our lovely weather! 😂
But what if the thief steals the books not to read them, but just to fill their house with books and make themselves seem erudite and intelligent?
I’m imagining the most extreme version of this, where a man is living in a house that is a veritable library. Yet, they’re actually illiterate.
That’s common as a backdrop for offices and stuff, they sell books by the pound for that.
Sounds like a “truther” or flat earther.
I was about to describe here a world wherein a flat earther glass through a book to call it out on all the “lies”, then I realised “oh wait, I literally watched a video on that”
… It was a children’s science book 😂
Those poor books 🥲
