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    Oh wow, so we’re just doing away with constitutional rights? Freedom of speech and assembly is being tested. Do not give them an inch, otherwise it will take generations to get it back.

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        These guys are the progeny of those who have been itching for a civil war since The New Deal. The Business Plot failed because Smedley Butler refused to play along. Then The John Birch Society failed after gaining some ground. Nixon courted Dixie racists with The Southern Strategy. Then Reagan came along and got Evangelicals and saw the rise of union busting. Prosperity Gospel messaging replaced loving thy neighbor. Then Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh ruled the 90s. Then Obama got elected and people’s brains broke and then shit ratcheted up even more. The right wing realized over the years that the only way they will stay in power is if they appeal to people’s worst impulses. They proliferate hate and fear. They are aesthetic with no substance creating a feedback loop to be exploited.

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        @tonytins They have just been biding their time.

        It’s easy to see why we couldn’t abolish slavery by legislation. The hate runs deep and the greed is plentiful.

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              That goes beyond the legislative outlawing slavery. A big cause belli for the war was insurrectionist abolitionists (John Brown, most notably) threatening the possibility of a national slave revolt. Also, slave trafficking in northern states, as the courts dismantled all the regulation against interstate traffic. New York, for instance, was the largest slave trading city in the US on the eve of the civil war.

              The Southern response was to impose material law on the north, through the Fugitive Slave Act and then the armed rebellion.

              This was long before any legislation was under consideration. Hell, it was before Lincoln had even taken office.

              The question, in 1860, was not whether to outlaw slavery nationally. It was whether anti-slavery laws could be enforced anywhere, even regionally.

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        These guys have been craving for another civil war since Trump’s first term. the last one. FTFY. :)

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      This was in project 2025, none of them are surprised, it’s literally the next step in the plan they showed us. It’s too bad that document was 900 pages and took too long to make summaries of that people’s attention span lapsed by the time they were available. If you want to stop being surprised, summaries have been available since within the week it was originally posted though.

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      It’ll work though too. People will show up. The most active protestors will be targeted and arrested. The rest will eventually go home and in a month we’ll be on to the new thing.

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          The reason I’m so frustrated with the left is because I wish you were right. But fucking hell I’ve seen it too many times. I’ve had this exact discussion every other time. The left are fucking performative and have not conviction. These protests are just to go get their “protest passport” stamped and go home then bitch about things until the next one.

          Meanwhile it’s an opportunity for the authorities to go fishing. Police training isn’t what it is to be. They have protests down to a science. Plus they will be able to fight for bigger budgets.

          I’m not saying protests shouldn’t happen. I am saying North American protests needs to something more than just showing up to get heads kicked in and make performative acts. Like it honestly seems like they biggest advances in how to protest came from other countries like China or Egypt. I don’t know. I’m just fucking done with it all. I’m telling you in a couple weeks none of this will matter.

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            @Melvin_Ferd

            Let’s check back in on July 4. He’s got 28,000+/- more “criminals” to round up and deport.

            I don’t think I’d label the Civil Rights movement or BLM protests as performative, though.

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    “Peaceful protests are part of the fabric of our nation, …”

    You know what else is part of the fabric of our nation? Violent protests. You know who’s usually on the side of starting those? The State.

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    What a surprise old “Pull up the ladder” Abbott is bowing before his king even asks. What sad state of affairs America has become, ready and eager to give up freedom to a self titled king for lols at half the country. Pathetic, traitorous buffoonery is just expected at this point. Tots and pears.

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    Well, if you’re gonna “anticipate stuff” you might as well anticipate a prolonged war and just ask for a permanent presence right? While we’re being presumption, and anticipating, ask for the soldiers to be quartered in your house…