• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    16 hours ago

    Yeah so a significant portion of the US agricultural workforce is being deported, they’re killing food stamp programs in the “Bif Beautiful Bill” and putting tariffs on countries the US imports food from. The King has a “let them eat cake” mentality and nobody is concerned about the food supply because it’s inconceivable there would ever be starvation in a wealthy country.

    Enjoy your dog hats!

  • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    I am a tick on this dog’s back.

    Hopefully, we’ll be able to survive. Ain’t nobody asking me for directions though.

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    20 hours ago

    If history ever recorded the experiences of people like us during those falls, we might have the wisdom today to associate with historic events far beyond the scope of our lived experience. But only the lives of the wealthy and powerful are recorded. Our stories don’t get told. So maybe the best we can do today is to ensure our peasant descendants have our stories for when their empires fall. Perhaps posting on social media is the wisest thing we can think to do?

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      16 hours ago

      There have been authoritarian regimes in the modern world in countries with high literacy rates. There’s a lot written down by regular people living through those times.

      The US situation isn’t all that different to the end of the Soviet Union. People think ideology makes it the complete opposite of the US, but hardliners worrying more about conforming to ideology rather than having a functional economy is one of the reasons the Soviet Union finally collapsed.

      No, it won’t be the end of civilization, it’s the collapse of a super power which has happened before, and relatively recently.

  • T156@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Nothing new, though. People have always tried to stick to normality during momentous events. It’s not like everything immediately dissolves into anarchy.

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    2 days ago

    I’m thinking of it more as the decline of the Roman Republic.

    don’t worry, there’s still a lot of way to go for the American empire.

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      Rome couldn’t obliterate itself in a nuclear fire during its innumerable civil wars as it heads towards inevitable global climate collapse.

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    2 days ago

    Seems like a completely normal and natural reaction to large-scale disturbing changes. Staying sane is the first priority. Or as they put it in Wrath of Khan…

    Carol Marcus: “How can you think of food at a time like this?”

    Kirk [eating an apple]: “First order of business - survival.”

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      15 hours ago

      Useless pedantry:

      It was actually McCoy who said “how can you think of food”, not Carol. Kirk was not eating an apple (yet), McCoy was responding to Kirk having just said “Is there anything to eat? I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m starved.”

      Kirk IS eating an apple later in the Genesis cave during the conversation with Saavik about the no-win scenario. “I don’t like to lose. into communicator Enterprise, it’s been two hours, are you ready?” Spock: “Right on schedule, Admiral. Give us your coordinates and we’ll beam you aboard.” “All right. to Saavik I don’t like to lose crunches apple

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        Why dont you explain for those who disagree when exactly a country founded on genocide, that has always stood for the domination of the capitalist over the workering class at home, but mostly abroad was worth saving? The brief period the brief period they supported the USSR?

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          Cuz real people live here and the majority of them don’t deserve to have to suffer over it

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            20 hours ago

            I’d say none of them deserve to suffer. I’ll cheer on the death of America all the same.

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        Even if it wasn’t, fact of the matter is that innocent people would have died in its collapse, and that would be unacceptable regardless.

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          16 hours ago

          ik how this sounds, but every single major world power has done bad stuff. all of them. I don’t mean to downplay that but the other major powers aren’t much better.

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    I mean… You can’t think about it 24/7 or else you will go insane. This kind of thing requires endurance for the long haul.

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      America is an imperialist empire and fascist are the useful idiots of empire. And the Democratic Party is a neoliberal party, which if you look at the global spectrum of conservatism versus liberalism, it is actually a right wing ideology. So it can be argued there isn’t even a left wing in America, and a lot of people are just confused about their political affiliations. We are in a time of reactionary populism. America is a right-wing country and liberals just choose to ignore our brutality overseas. And so every time there is a conflict there is a high chance that liberals will get sucked in to being a part of the military industrial complex and the imperialist aims of the imperial core since Yankees live in a vacuum… This is why they’re still confused about Ukraine. And like, if you study history, you know this like cycle repeats itself. It’s frustrating. People don’t have framework. Depending where you are on the social hierarchy, you either are comfortable and happy with your life. Or you realize how low on the totem pole you are. And it’s kind of like you live in North Korea with a mixture of Disneyland, but you forgot your wallet and you’re not allowed to leave. It’s so frustrating when liberals take up the space that’s supposed to be occupied by the left wing, and then they police us and tell us how to think. What we are experiencing is the imperial boomerang, or in the intelligence communities, they call it blowback. Yankees create terrorism. Yankees create their own problems. Not only are Yankees stupid, but that stupidity makes them terrifying. They like to frame anarchist as reactionaries, but it is really the liberals and the Christofacist that tend to be reactionary, but in their own little ways. It’s like you’re Sunni and Shia and Trump and his inner circle are… playing you like a fiddle as Rome burns. The rich just care about their status. They have no loyalty to national pride or the betterment of the world that they control. I think they plan on lowering standards and changing norms and kind of running things with a hands off approach but not letting things improve on purpose. The more you know, the angrier you get, and then eventually you get tired. Yeah, Orange Man bad and so every fucking American president ever. Every single social improvement was just the compromise of the rich. They put their nonsense on pause so they can continue with their plans and everything is going according to plan. It’s like you gotta pull yourself out of the situation. Look at it from an Eagle’s view. But it seems like eagles become vultures. “Love me, love me, I’m a liberal.” - Phil Ochs

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    2 days ago

    Wouldn’t call this cancer that terrorised the world for decades, not even centuries and empire.