Bill Clinton’s last-minute endorsement of Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s mayoral race is all too fitting: both men represent the corporate Democratic establishment, opposed by socialist candidate Zohran Mamdani, that has abandoned the working class.
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I’m starting to think Clinton is actually eating babies, that dude seems not to age right. He is almost 80…
The Clintons have ruined democratic party
I would love to read a book on this. They totally have and I wanna know all the details.
The Clintons are largely responsible for the democratic party’s tolerance and enabling of fascism. They are responsible for popularizing thirdway politics in the US, and making compromise the Democrats only real priority.
Of course they are going to endorse the center right, that is the party platform that they’ve been building since the 90s. I honestly do not know why the conservatives demonized Hillary so much, the Clinton’s basically built their empire compromise by compromise.
To those saying it’s because she’s a woman: Partly yes, but they demonize all Democrats because the compromise only goes one way.
I honestly do not know why the conservatives demonized Hillary so much
Easy way to move the Overton window.
Because she was a talkative woman with ideas and a dem instead of being in their GOP
… and a great grass-roots history of beneficial community service. Honestly her resume of not being a dirtbag is long and consistent.
Because she
You can stop there.
I’ve heard a lot of people talk shit about Hillary over the years, never once has it been about her being a woman. I’ve heard some misogynistic things about Kamala, however — she kinda opened herself up to it by dating a man who directly influenced her career. A man 31 years her senior. However, any talk about that has always been massively overshadowed by Gaza, or whatever else they had people spinning about at the time (I feel like it’s been years even though I know it hasn’t).
Idk, I just don’t buy ‘Hillary/Kamala lost because woman’. Doesn’t seem accurate.
Plenty of data on voters who didn’t show up for Clinton/Harris, but did for Biden. Since there isn’t any real policy differences among those three, it’s safe to say what they did base their vote on.
Why can’t the Clintons just go away?
The entire Dem leadership cadre needs to start stepping aside. They have failed to recognize how things have changed, and are well prepared to fight the GOP of the 1990s. Shit has changed, idiots, and you need to hand the reins over to folks like AOC and Hogg. Stop sidelining them, start paying attention to the canary in your goddamned coalmine.
No! It worked in the 90s! It’ll work again any day now!!
Also, we make too much money, so no.
So things work exactly like they want them to. They get money, the oligarchy gets their interests represented, the middle class gets destroyed, people overseas get bombed and minorities get discriminated. Everything is perfectly like it should be for these people.
“Perfectly unbalanced towards the rich, as all things should be.”
And are sexual predators that are a danger to greater society
Neolibs simply can’t resist an opportunity to fuck shut up just one more time.
I guess in this case we just have to hope that this endorsement works the same way it did for Kamala.
Birds of a feather and all.
Bill who? Didn’t think he was relevant anymore.
This is the best possible PR that Mamdani could’ve hoped for
The establishment politicians of the Democratic party are why they are polling at historic lows, but I’m also concerned that too much has been placed on Mamdani’s shoulders in regards to the future of the party. Its one race, in a state with a Democratic party that is very different than Democratic parties in the rest of the country, with a voting system that while better, is more subject to uncertainty than we’re used to. A lot of fuckery can happen between now and then.
Mamdani isn’t a super hero and a lot can happen between here and there. Its a good thing that he’s doing well, but its not clear whatsoever that there is a political path towards defeating fascism in the US, even if Mamdani pulls this out. If they do, its a largely aesthetic win; its not like a senate seat or the house is in play from this.
We need to fully digest the fact that politics have failed us and recognize that we may need to move on with regards to the fight against fascism. Ideally, there is both a political path to fighting fascism and a boots on the ground path, but I’m concerned about over investing in political paths which have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be a waste of resources, effort, and mind share.
To pin this all on one man is supremely America-brained - I trust you’re not trying to do that. This is a movement for our moment within our electoral space.
Yes, he is the candidate. No, he is not alone. His campaign and platform are both rooted in a different conception of how to do politics. And that is a story Americans need to hear. He offers us the chance to actually offer that to a majority of Americans, person to person. From a depth of Change in machinery that makes Bernie look like Biden. And it is about investing in Americans - all Americans.
It is not perfect, it is still limited largely to fit within the imagination of Liberals in the US. But we can finally shift the overton window so that the US has an actual Left party. And we might get to explore what that means!
I hope we can have a Leftist as “America’s Mayor” for this moment that needs an antidote to Fascism.
I think his campaign succeeding would more be a way to show his kind of message and campaign tactics are actually viable both in general and against establishment Dems as opposed to it somehow making a big difference in the country. If he succeeds he’s laying the track for others to follow.
Put it in the pile?
We’ve got a massive stack of evidence showing that progressive policies and candidates are popular and win elections; that centrists and moderates lose elections; and that the main reason why Democrats fail to perform is when they try to get RW’ing voters instead of activating their base, trying to get LW’ing voters. We’ve got like 2.5 decades of consistent data showing this. The two problems we have are 1) we have a media and Democratic consultant class for whom maintaining control of the party is a higher priority than maintaining control of government as a party, and that 2) these people and the voters have very different interests that don’t align and are basically exclusive to one another.
The biggest opposition to Democrats winning elections isn’t Republicans, it’s Democrats who are wrong about where the country is at, who are wrong about how elections work, and who can’t be removed from any office because at its core, the Democratic Party is a fundamentally undemocratic institution (like, we’ve had supreme court rulings on the matter).
So stack it up. The evidence is clear that Democratic socialist policies win Democrats elections. But with apologists always willing to come out and make apologies for business as usual, well never be able to to break the blood brain barrier within the DNC.
Is this solidarity with capitalists or solidarity with sex criminals? 40/60?
America has class.
“And I will add, I did NOT have any sexual relations with that man, Andrew Cuomo” - Clinton, probably.
To give the devil his due, based on Kenneth Starr’s definition of sexual relations, that was true in the Lewinsky case, there was no peen-in-poon contact. And the whole investigation was set up as a trap, so Clinton did the lawyerly thing and responded technically correctly to the exact question asked.
Notice that, despite all the funding and political malice directed against him, he was never charged with perjury. The Arkansas disbarment was another hatchet job, so he settled.
End of Clinton defense. I agree that his strategy of triangulation handed the country to the worst of the Republicans, and three strikes, don’t ask don’t tell, financial deregulation and other Clinton initiatives were disastrously bad. And let’s not forget Hillary’s convoluted, botched attempt at health care reform. Bill was the more talented of the pair, but I wouldn’t piss on either of them if they were on fire.
