Waaay back in 2002 a mate of mine very drunkenly espoused his theory that WWIII was going to be caused by Israel because “that Netanyahu cunt is a fucking maniac”
Nailed it, Pete.
Bibbi needs to continue Israel’s war so he stays out of prison. Dude is fucked if that ever happens. Good luck getting their neighbors to help shooting down shit that is inevitably coming their way.
I find it hilarious that all these countries call themselves “democracies” yet criminals have a loophole where they can just stay in power indefinitely as long as they continue committing more crimes.
Clown world.
Will he go to prison? Seems like the majority of Israelis approve of what he’s doing.
He is awaiting corruption and bribery charges that they have him dead to rights on.
Trump is a convicted felon, yet there was/is no political will to imprison him. The ruling class doesn’t give a shit if one of their members commits crimes or war crimes or even genocide. As long as they their ability to hoard extreme wealth is unaffected, they don’t care.
Its crazy how much stronger Israel’s position would be if they got rid of this old, incompetent babbling idiot. Like no one ever would look at this and say “yeah Iran should have nukes” but somehow here we are. Israel’s incapability to effectively govern itself just shows that most of their problems are of their own making.
Netanyahu has been on and off power in Israel over the past three decades.
Looking at Smotrich, Ben Gvir and the like, the even more fascist right is not going to be any better. Meanwhile what considers itself the “left” in Israel is still very much genocidal and imperialist.
Just like Trump, Netanyahu isn’t the root cause, just an aggravating symptom of the issues in the society.
Yeah this “blame Netanyahu” line is a liberal Zionist rearguard to salvage the colony’s tattered reputation. This isn’t one bad apple.
Meanwhile what considers itself the “left” in Israel is still very much genocidal and imperialist.
Until recently I would have agreed with you (other than the actual hard-left which consists of Hadash, Ta’al and Balad, two of them being explicitly Palestinian parties), but recently, and also a few times in the past, the leader of the Israeli Democrats (a new party with a terrible name) said some really based stuff which is a step in the right direction if nothing else. And now they’re trying to take away his military credentials, which just shows that he’s right. But even he can’t abandon liberal Zionism, and a bit of militarism, if he wants anyone to listen to him.
It’s more that the left is small and insignificant, because it has many of the same problems as the left in other right-wing countries: it advertises to a progressive middle class, and completely ignores the lower classes who would most benefit from its policies.
Left-wing policies in Israel will certainly help disadvantaged people, but left-wing (Zionist) parties talk about abstract ideals like “democracy”, instead of material conditions. And citizens who struggle under the cost of living, almost or actually in poverty, don’t care about the type of government they have: they care about surviving to the next day, and left-wing parties have just given up on trying to get their vote.
Essentially my point here is that Israeli society is not fundamentally incompatible with left-wing ideas or policies (leading eventually, hopefully, to anti-Zionism), but left-wing parties have consistently ignored those who need them most, leading them to the right and to distrust the left, effectively digging their own grave.
You are confirming my point imo. The parties and people that consider themselves left are still Zionist. They do not oppose genocide against Palestinians because it is wrong to mass murder people. They oppose it because they see the long term consequences for Israel. They are not willing to stop the settlement expansion, leave alone remove the settlements and end the illegal occupation.
The “based” statements you refer to come now, as the genocidal rhetoric has become completely unhinged and Israel is unable to maintain the narratives even in allied countries. This is not done out of ethical conviction, but to present themselves as “reasonable” alternative to Netanyahu and an option to get back to the status quo. The status quo of ethnic cleansing and imperial expansion slow enough for Israels allies to be able to look the other way.
Anti-zionist and therefore anti-fascists are a fringe minority in the Israel society.
Most of Israel’s senior politicians are just as bad.
And Iran should definitely have nukes; it’s the only way to protect it from the endless aggression of the the US and Israel (both of which have nukes)
The knesset was about to be toppled the night before. He literally did this to stave off government collapse.
I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice this, all these atrocities are just so Bibi can stay in power and out of jail for corruption.
It’s important to remember the vast majority of Israelis agree with Bibi. As Norman Finkelstein has said, Israel is a sick society.
Yes but also western powers aren’t sanctioning or trying to stop him.
That is not a conclusion that can be reached from: Israel government almost devolves but is saved by a vote to bomb a foreign nation explicitly to piss off Trump and detail his negotiations with Iran?
Israeli society is sick and genocidal, “Bibi” (why are you using the fascist’s favorite pet name btw? Leave they for the fascists) is not the sole problem.
These Zionist psychopaths commit genocide and bomb countries without any consequences. Fuck Israel.
DOGE, we found some waste
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not making the best case for “right to exist”
What case can you make for a religious supremacist ethnostate where they shoot children in the knees for sport?
Are you talking about Iran or Israel?
Israel
You should look up what your dear leaders are doing to their people in Iran, friendo.
what about x?
You’re right, Iran is a religious ethno state and you’re smart enough to recognize that as a bad thing, but when it comes to literal Jewish ISIS (Israel), you have to make an exception.
Don’t bring up other countries I didn’t defend, I’m simply asking you to make a case for Israel to be built as a Jewish supremacist state on land already lived on by a majority non Jewish native population, forcing the ethnostate to genocide them just to exist.
Make a case for Israel that isn’t “Europeans felt guilty for the Holocaust so they declared Jews are allowed to Holocaust anyone and gave them Palestine”
Why would I? I don’t support the Israeli government at all and it’s no question they’re guilty of a genocide.
Stop engaging in stupid whataboutism then. Getting a few Internet points isn’t worth diverting the conversation from the genocidal entity. You’re the one that brought up Iran, friendo.
Yeah & as always US is involved in it. Mind you I didn’t deny what Iran was doing, but just like Oct.7th, Iran’s current state didn’t happen in a vaccuum
Obviously Israel
whichever is left after the fallout clears.
They’re at the “right to do whatever the fuck we want” stage.
There can be no prosperity for humanity with such colonies around the world. Disarm Israel now.
& turn it into an actual safe haven for Jews. Because the far right christians will most definetly use Israel’s attrocities to justify anti-semitism (the real one)
Not content with the Gaza genocide?
They need a new distraction
They’re a puppet military for the US. Attacking the nuclear sites is strategically in response to the rising nuclear enrichment and failure to form an agreement.
We used to have an agreement, didn’t we? What happened to it?
Oh. Right.
Yup…and we essentially gave them nukes in the 70’s
EDIT: this is true. Not sure why downvotes
So much for diplomacy in the current era
Israel’s actions in the past couple years have all seemed like sorta a desperate attempt to leverage the US Hegemony that’s protected them, before the US buckles.
Sorta like imagine a kid in Grade 1 who’s a total racist bully to his classmates. But the kid has an older brother in grade 6 who has no issue beating the shit outta any Grade 1 kid who fights back. When the older brother nears the transition to middle school – at which point the younger will lose his protection – the younger brother starts instigating like crazy, to try and establish dominance while still protected.
I mean, there’s also the whole “Netanyahu goes to prison if he doesn’t have a war going on” thing.
Honestly, I’m kinda surprised he waited this long.
hopefully it’s a swan song
I’m not any kind of expert, but I don’t think that was good.
The best part is it doesn’t take an expert to know not to attack people.
Consider that rock over there. See how it doesn’t attack anything so everything leaves it alone?
There’s gold in that rock!
Until the stone mason shows up
That doesn’t always work.
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Ditto
Well, that’s some “art of the deal” for sure. Peace in Middle East negotiated, bravo Vitkoff and Taco Don.
For the sake of peace and the wellbeing of all the people living in that part of the world, I desperately hope that Iran is much closer to developing a nuclear weapon than the world knows. Israel is an unspeakably evil, and relentlessly provocative entity that is as deserving of dismantling as any of the notorious fascist monsters we typically call out in history. A nuclear capability will at least provide some kind of meaningful check against the violent tendencies of the US and its vicious client state.
I wouldn’t want this Iranian government to have nukes though
I would. It’s important to have a country in the region that checks Israel’s power and deters its aggression.
Genuinely why? They’re one of the least aggressive governments in the region, and not for lack of military resources.
They are shitty enough, though – they provide Putin weapons to bomb Ukraine.
And we provide Israel weapons to bomb Gaza.
Yeah but it’s only bad when our “enemies” do it. When we do it it’s fine, especially when we’re killing more children while doing it.
And Iran provides Hamas weapons to bomb Israel
And Hamas has the right under international law to resist an occupying power by force.
And funding most of Islam driven terrorism around the world but hey - the underdog goes brrrrr
Is Ukraine the top priority? Or is defeating Israel the top priority? And who’s going to defeat Israel if not Iran? Turkey? Sharaa in Syria - who has declared his intention to normalize with Israel? Who?
Yes, but potential nukes have nothing to do with their shittiness.
That’s a joke, right?
Oh I’m in .world, zios are here. I forgor
Your bot had a stroke
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Totally agree. The Zionists have proven themselves not worthy of humanity, but immoral imperialist savages. I hope Iran gets its nukes and gives the world a great service by using them.
I hope Iran gets its nukes and gives the world a great service by using them.
despite how much I despise Israel, this would be suicidal and would drag the whole world into war
Found the ML.
This is a civil comment.
Bibi will do anything to keep Israel in a state of emergency. Good for his extreme right buddies but foremost better for himself. As long there is some war going on, their cabinet stays in power and him out of jail for his fraud conviction. Him and his Zionist extremists are cancer for Israel and the region.
I feel like the narrative that Bibi is just doing this to stay out of jail ignores that the majority of Israeli’s approve of what he’s doing and would not seek a jail term for him, let alone the fact that the rest of the Israeli government would not prosecute. I’d be glad to be wrong, but it feels like blaming one bad apple just lets Zionism as a whole off the hook.
Yup, this is all self-preservation to him from the start. Watch him keep this going for a few more years, then come up with an excuse to “delay” the election.
“Quick, bomb Iran before Donny gets too friendly with them” or what?
I hate that there are no good guys in this conflict.
That being said, I also hate to agree with Israel atm because Iran having nuclear weapons is a world ending scenario. Let me remind people that it’s one of the few theocratic countries that still exist which is dominated by religion that has “death to all but us” enshrined as the “word of god”.
Neither Sunni Muslims nor Shia Muslims want that. This is genocidal hate speech against Muslims.
some of them want that, no? or are we doing fingers in ears bla bla bla now?
If you think it’s muslims that want to bring about armageddon, I dare you to look up ‘Israel red heiffers.’ Turns out all that “muslims want the end of the world” rhetoric is just projection, and it’s actually our evangelical/zionist leaders that are pushing their prophecy of rapture onto the world (successfully.) Islam’s only involvement in that gospel is to prevent the rapture, but sure, they’re the bad guys right?
Yes they are the bad guys and I say this as someone who comes from Islamic background. Zionists and christian extremists are bad guys too but that’s beside the point as Islam is fundamentally evil because the original texts are literal words of god not interpretative texts (like other religions) so Islam can never correct itself and the original texts literally say to murder people. Like wtf, dude read Quran and see for yourself.
So the same Quran that has Moses and Jesus quoted more often than in the Torah or Bible, that you think has no varying interpretations across 3 billion people (pretending that Sunni and Shia among many other variations don’t exist) that also contains prophecy about protecting the world from zionist and christian apocalypse… Is worse than apocalyptic zionists and christians?
Do you realize how uneducated and bigoted you sound? Seems like you got all your islamic education from Call of Duty.
I think that may be because hes uneducated, talking nonsense about how iran shouldn’t have a deterrent against bombing civilians. Its funny how one sided his ‘arguments’ are, I guess he never heard quote ‘there are two sides to every story’ (either way hes a joke so I wouldn’t hold my breath for him to see sense)
Dude I don’t get why are you so protective of it. It literally says “it’s literal god of word” in the book several times:
“Nor does he [Muhammad] speak from [his own] desire. It is nothing but a revelation revealed.” Surah 53:3-4
“And recite what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord. None can change His words.” Surah 18:27
“And indeed, it [the Qur’an] is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. The Trustworthy Spirit [Gabriel] has brought it down Upon your heart, [O Muhammad] — that you may be of the warners.” Surah 26:192-194
That’s just from quick google of the top of my head.
It’s literally the biggest problem of Islam because radicals always can fall back to Quran being literal and win every single time and excuse any action because they have back up. It’s literally the curse of Islam and it’s incredibly sad and white washing this is not helping anyone.
“Literal god of word” okay buddy. And famously the bible never says anything about Jesus being the “literal word of god” or anything. I’m choosing to direct my anger at the religion that’s actually doing a genocide and trying ennact their apocalyptic prophecy, you’re choosing to direct your anger at the religion that isn’t doing those things.
If they’re not interpretive texts then how are there multiple sects of Islam? Seems like multiple interpretations there.
Iran having nuclear weapons is a world ending scenario
Less so than Israel having nuclear weapons but here we are.
While I have no sympathy for religious dictatorship of Iran, it is Israel who are invading and bombing their neighbours as well as commiting genocide of Palestinians.
I wonder what made them so radical, it couldn’t be that nato has been waging war in middle east for thirty or so years
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Huh ‘revealing my true self’ what tf are you on about. (wow hoping for ‘every possible misfortune to fall on me’ you’re a psychopath you should be in psychiatric hospital)
Uh yeah, Imma need actual scripture or some quote from a more reliable source than “trust me, bro”.
Crazy I know. If only there was infinite source of free information you could access and confirm yourself. Guess we’re out of luck :|
News aren’t trustworthy enough for you I guess
What are some examples of wars where ‘good guys and bad guys’ fought
Literally happening right now - Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. There hasn’t been a more black/white war in recent history than this.
Yes but do you think ordinary russians want to be in that war dying, I dont think they are psychopathics who just wanna kill and rape
What does that have to do with anything? The war is black/white. Period.
