• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    6 days ago

    Buses are wider than cars.

    Just look at this picture they’re clearly much wider. The bus is wider damn it. Stupid kid.

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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    6 days ago

    Imagine explaining euclidean shapes with it’s wider, so it’s wider’

    But what the kid was asking is why arent cars designed to carry more people with all that wasted space & resources.

    • Guidy@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      They weren’t. They were a kid not an Internet hipster with no concept of delivery vehicles, disabled people, people with children or pets, people whose jobs and family lives require them to be able to leave and go somewhere at the drop of a hat, and people from tiny boutique nations founded before cars with excellent public transport that can quite easily get along without a car.

      It would take me about 2.5 hours to get to work from home by bus. Each way. On a good day. With two transfers each way.

  • LordGimp@lemm.ee
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    6 days ago

    2x insulation, 2x windows motors, wider seats per person, and busses are actually noticeably wider than cars. Cars should take up between 1/2 and 2/3 of the lane they actually occupy, while busses and big rigs puch a lot closer to the actual width of a car lane.

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      6 days ago

      Cars should take up between 1/2 and 2/3 of the lane they actually occupy

      tell that to the stupid F-150s. 2 Seats, no aisle, and subjectively wider than a bus

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        6 days ago

        Between 1988 and now the f150 only increased in width by .9 of an inch. Parking spots are set by the size of the f150 because they are consistent and abundant.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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          5 days ago

          Yeah but they were massive to start with, they’ve always been huge.

          Europe has smaller parking spaces because Europe point blank refused to accommodate larger vehicles just because. The US is so obsessed with cars that the idea of going “no that thing is stupidly big we’re not accommodating it”, is not an acceptable thought.

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            Europe didn’t refuse to accommodate larger vehicles. The simply couldn’t. All the towns are significantly older than the oldest town in the USA. The town streets are narrower, and can’t support the weight of larger vehicles. If there wasn’t that constraint, there would be ltz suburbans everywhere.

  • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
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    6 days ago

    Stop thinking you communist little shit! Need to stop buses so can sell more crrrs!

    Now to make them really mad, think about how clean the air, how silent the streets were if we ONLY had buses. How technologically interesting they would be, with hepa filters so people dont get sick and have less argument for individual cars.

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    7 days ago

    Don’t sing the buses any praises yet. The dark incentive to carry more people means the seats are quite rigid, vertical, bad quality and narrow in both directions. All in the name of transporting people like cattle (and for pretty much the same purpose). I can’t sit in my city’s new buses because my legs literally don’t fit on the seat to the knees before hitting the next seat, even if I manspread. Have been asking around if other people are having this issue because I intend to file a legal case.

    • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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      6 days ago

      It sounds like your transit system has the good problem of needing to accommodate more passengers. Why not ask your local authorities (transit authority, city council, etc) to look into upgrading these busier routes to trams or even heavy rail? That way they could add A LOT more capacity without having to make the experience so uncomfortable, and they’d save money in the long run.

      • Venia Silente@lemm.ee
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        6 days ago

        Thanks. Fortunately, there is actually a (one) light rail project under study, it just happens to not cover my general area. Hopefully if it goes ahead and works, it’d mean there’ll be more. But it has my support in the meantime!

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          I wanna take this chance to really encourage you to get out there and let people know you want to see this project and want to see more like it. In general, the majority of people who show up to these meetings are the NIMBYs who simply ask that everybody drive an $80,000 tank and run over anyone on a bicycle. We could really use your voice.

          • Venia Silente@lemm.ee
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            I’ll see what I can do. Things like mass transportation should be relevant in this area with a noticeable population and construction growth, but there’s an underlying facet that most of the “room” that was at some time in the past thought of for setting up two train lines, was already used to construct bikeways because the train projects were taking too long to even get past proposal stage. In our situation people want to see things that can be done fast, and historically here train is not one of them.

    • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      You’re one of the few gangly ass tall guys with this issue, millions of people use busses without such issues, by this same logic you must think planes are a terrible form of travel as well, cause you can’t fit in those seats with cramped leg room

      • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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        Oh I think we can all agree airplane seats are the shittiest and airplanes are a terrible mode of travel, the whole experience has become godawful. If people had any other option that could transport them far distances quickly, they’d take it.

        At least veniasulente does USE the buses even though they’ve become so uncomfortable. And filing a legal case is one way to prevent them from becoming even more cramped. You know, the reason airline seats/aisles are so shitty is because they got the government to carve out exceptions for them from the ADA decades ago, so you CAN’T file a legal claim.

      • Venia Silente@lemm.ee
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        7 days ago

        Probably I would but I can’t realistically pay for a plane ticket in this economy lol.

        Oh well I’ll never know.

        But I did fit in older buses without issues, which means the buses are being shrinkflationed for capitalism. (I can’t have grown 8 cm in one year yet kept using the same clothes, can I?)

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        7 days ago

        ford coming out with a 2-seater “bus” so they can release a truck that’s 14 feet off the ground and gets 4 gallons a mile

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          6 days ago

          12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
          65 tons of American Pride!

          Canyonero! Canyonero!

          Top of the line in utility sports,
          Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

          Canyonero! Canyonero! (Yah!)

          She blinds everybody with her super high beams,
          She’s a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!

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          Ford has been making the f650 for over 20 years

          Edit; it gets 6mpg btw

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              From factory, those things are meant to be box trucks, dump trucks or tow trucks. Heavy duty work trucks. Not actually Ford’s fault that idiots put pickup beds on the back and use them as their commuter. If you have a truck that big and it does have a flatbed at least, you’re just a weekend warrior with issues.

            • GluWu@lemm.ee
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              Yeah, you can haul 30+ people

              You can haul 6 tons of dirt, gravel, anything

              Or you have a micropenis

  • Platypus@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    In case anybody’s curious, buses are generally much wider than cars (my local buses are 8’6”, compared to the 6’6” Honda Odyssey); their seats are also narrower and the walls thinner, which adds up to a lot of interior space.

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      They also have vertical walls instead of curved because maximizing interior space is more important than aerodynamics for them.