The battery connector is amazing, not a ribbon cable in sight!
When AMD???
I just want an electric car that can do exactly this.
Modular components on an option of 3 frames. Reparable to a degree. Bare bones functionality. Physical buttons, no screens. Open source software. Upgrade not the whole car, but components as you go. Literally what video games taught us.
If I had Mark Cuban money, it’s the first thing I would do.
I think that has more to do with safety laws and emission standards than anything else. How can you properly crash test a fully modular car?
I’d love it if cars were more repairable, but modular would be a really tough design problem.
Heck, you NEED a screen in the US on any car due to backup cameras being mandatory. If you need a screen, I can see why companies would just use it for the infotainment system.
Yes and no. There’s a YT video of some guy fixing anything on any car. The catch is that for components for easy things are getting harder and harder to reach. I always used to change my oil myself because it takes 20 minutes and I know the filter got replaced. Harder and harder to do every car I have. So even basic maintenance I can’t do myself anymore.
Modular components could be workable in terms of you pick frame 1, 2, or 3 with batteries. Then you pick wheels/motors packs A, B, or C. Then you pick more and more options. If you own the A and C options, it’s a 45 minute swap out with a system that confirms things are plugged in right. Not every configuration would work together. Toyota uses a lot of interchangeable parts between cars. I mean do this with a whole back end or front end. So like 5 swappable zones that work in maybe 15 possible configurations per frame.
Maybe you want a battle wagon. And want to grow out of that to a pickup. Or start with compact car and expand to a compact SUV.
Sounds a bit like the Slate truck to me.
Imagine Slate without Bezos
Would be so exciting
I know!!
I really wish it wouldn’t benefit Lex Luthor. If it makes waves, hopefully other similar types of cars will come along by the time my civic needs to be replaced.
I had to double-take because I thought this was their 12th model. But no, they just suck at product versioning, like every other tech company.
The number only indicate the screen size. The other two laptop models are the Framework 13 and 16. The only thing that made it confusing for you was your assumptions, since it all seems pretty straightforward to me.
This naming scheme breaks down the moment they release another line of 12", 13", or 16" laptops. It’s a bad naming scheme.
The whole point of making a easy to repair and upgrade laptop is that people wouldn’t have to buy the latest model to get upgrades, they can just buy the parts they want to upgrade and swap them in their existing laptop and if the come up with a upgraded Framework 12, they can just add the year it comes out to the title
They wouldn’t because they don’t have the manufacturing capacity to dilute their product line like that. The whole concept of the Frameworks laptop is to keep as many parts as possible between generation so its always upgradeable between generation. We’ll see how well they can stay on this course.
Yes i realised that after researching their product line. And there are currently 5 different 13’s, and seemingly no easy way to differentiate revisions without listing the complete specs.
I just wish companies would make it easier to tell which of their products is newer/older.
Eg: 13" 2021, 16" 2022, etc…Lenovo ThinkPads used to do that, but you had to know the system.
T580 as an example:
- T is the series
- 5 indicates 1[5]" screen size
- 8 indicates the year 201[8]
- 0 doesn’t really mean anything
So a T490 would be 14" and from 2019.
Though, I’m unsure of their naming scheme for newer models like T14 or T15. I think the 14 or 15 just tells the screen size, and then they add a “Gen 2”, “Gen 3” etc. to indicate the age.
Revisions don’t really make sense for Framework in the same way as most other tech companies though, simply because of how upgradable and swappable the laptops are. My 13 probably has parts from two or three different “versions” at this point, and works like Lucky Charms.
I guess it doesn’t really work in their case because they only update certain parts each time, while all other parts stay the same revision, so you do need to refer to the specs to know which model you’re referring to.
Got a Framework 12 and have all sorts of tiny annoying but somewhat manageable problems with it.
It used to overheat and then throttle to 400 Mhz every few seconds on high load. Overheating meaning 100°C. After a long time being annoyed and thinking “did I do something wrong” I reached out to support, and eventually got a new motherboard. It’s better since then, but it still gets hot quickly. Also, if I just idle, like maybe a few Browser tabs and that’s it, it will get somewhat warm ~65°C and I just don’t get it.
For some reason, it sometimes does not find my hard drive on boot. Works the second or third attempt, and is no software problem.
The light detection thing has to be disabled in software to be able to use the brightness buttons.
At the start, my wifi sucked really bad, just on this device.
Having some more ports than just the audio jack and the extension cards would be neat too.
Also, it was really expensive.
So yeah, I sadly wouldn’t buy it again, I think. The concept is really neat, but I’ve had too many annoying little problems. I still do use it as my main computer, and it works reasonably well, is light and well transportable, works with my docking station easily, etc, but those issues are annoying.
Do you mean Framework 13? The 12 has just started shipping
What? No, the framework 12 is the thing the had before the 13 one. Nowadays, they call that model always 13 it seems. I think you’re confusing something, I’ve got mine since a few years now.
So… this is a 2-in-1 that is actually repairable? Am I reading this right?
Hot damn that looks amazing, will get one for my kid.
I got a Framework 16 a few months ago and I’ve been loving it. Super happy these guys managed to make this concept of a repairable laptop work. Though, one thing I wish is for them to make a storage case for the expansion cards. I’ve built up a little collection of them and obviously filled up all 6 slots pretty quickly. I’d like a better place to put the unused cards than in a random drawer.
Want me to 3d print one for you?
I found a few pre-made designs:
https://makerworld.com/models/973519
https://makerworld.com/models/1194123
What’s the best way to order a print if you dont have a printer yourself? Is there a site you can order from?
Your regional library or local makerspace may have 3d printers you can print with.
There are services online. I don’t use any of them, so I’m not comfortable making recommendations.
That being said, printers are getting cheap and really easy to use, so it may be worth looking into buying one for 200 bucks. Even without knowing how to model, there’s a ton of free designs out there.
Man, I love these interactions on Lemmy. So wholesome!
I have a Framework 14 for my school laptop and it really is a great little piece of hardware. Can’t wait to see what they come up with next.
Assume you mean the 13, I’ve had mine for a few months and love it too. Also really dig the refinements they’ve done with the 12 like the pogo pins and even more easily replaceable display
Can’t wait to see what they come up with next.
Framework smartphone please. Though I think that is VERY unlikely.
And a printer too.
With printers the thing that tends to go is the software. You wouldn’t think that was possible but it happens, somehow they just stop working for no reason at all.
But of course you could always just buy a brother printer and be done with it.
Framework + GrapheneOS = ♥️
Bout to nut
It is. On their YouTube channel there’s a very interesting Q&A on their event earlier this year, here: https://youtu.be/os_fHy1mB_M There was a question specifically about making a smartphone. They explained it was very unlikely they’d ever do that and explained their reasoning behind it, so I’d highly recommend watching the video of you’re interested in how they think.
You can’t stop me from dreaming!
The heatsink comes away just as smoothly if you’re looking to reapply thermal paste down the road.
Not that you ever should, since it has PTM7958 which should never need to be replaced, and gets better with age.
Thanks for the thermal pad tip fuckwit_mcbumcrumble !
Now that’s a username I can trust.
I have been wanting one since these were released. My old Asus laptop from 2016 is still kicking, so I guess I’ll wait till it craps the bed.
Same with my 2017 Thinkpad.
If they release one with a TrackPoint and mouse buttons, I’ll upgrade early.
Same; I simply can’t use a laptop without mouse buttons.
I have a Macbook Pro at work, and I honestly hate it, largely for this reason. Mouse button rock, and TrackPoint is good enough that I largely don’t use the trackpad. My workflow is very keyboard-centric, so it’s a really good fit.
Give me the same workflow and I’ll become a Framework customer. Otherwise, I’ll probably still get one, but only once my laptop is no longer functional.
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how do you use it with one hand?
imo that’s the only benefit of having a smartphone. any other computer can do internet calls too
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ok, I most often type with 2 hands, but I have issues holding my tablet sized laptop for a longer time, so it’s hard to even just keep reading on it. and it does not even have an HDD inside. I have no such problems with my phone, I could hold it probably for hours.
