• squaresinger@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    So if a pedestrian walked onto the road without looking or anything, you’d say the driver is at fault?

    A cycle lane is to a bike as a road is to a car. A pedestrian is allowed to cross it after looking and checking that no vehicle is coming, and the pedestrian has to give right of way.

    Cars have to be aware of cyclists when cyclists are driving on the road, since both have equal rights to be there. Same as a car has to be aware of another car or a cyclists of another cyclist. Both are allowed to use the road, so both need to be aware of each other.

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      3 days ago

      If a car driver is expected to be aware of pedestrians, then a cyclist is to be expected to be aware of pedestrians. You can’t have it both ways. A cyclist can easily cause serious injury to a pedestrian.

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        3 days ago

        Is a pedestrian expected to be aware of car drivers on the side walk?

        Is a car driver expected to be aware of pedestrians on the highway?

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          3 days ago

          Yes, and also yes. personal responsibility for your own safety doesn’t magically disappear because of paint on the ground.

          Responsibility for the machine you’re operating that can harm others doesn’t magically disappear when it weighs less.

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            2 days ago

            To be honest, it’s a wrong argument anyways. The cyclist was aware of the pedestrian on the bike lane and he stopped in time. So the whole argument doesn’t matter.

            The actual point is whether the pedestrian was in the right to wander onto the bike lane, completely oblivious to his surroundings.

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              They were both in the wrong. The cyclist shouldn’t be entitled to being an asshole because they’re inconvenienced, and the pedestrian doesn’t get to wander in the bike lane unaware of their surroundings.