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    You clearly know nothing about the actual motives of brexit voters. but call other people short-sighted.

    The choice was Trump, or a continuation of the political/economic ideology that made Trump inevitable. Implicit in t he act of voting is the giving of consent. This outcome has been decades in the making. And yet you blame ‘non-voters’ for all of the ills of fossil-fuel powered neo-liberal capitalism, and then have the cheek to call others short-sighted. Grow up.

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      You clearly know nothing about the actual motives of brexit voters. but call other people short-sighted.

      I’m well-acquainted with the nativism, financial illiteracy, and people mistaking support for right-wing elites for being in any way anti-establishment but, the motive weren’t the topic. The relationship to Brexiteers is their reaction to event negative thing that they were warned about coming to pass and their claims of “nobody said this would happen” and “this isn’t what I voted for”, as well as numerous other statements to avoid taking any personal responsibility.

      The choice was Trump, or a continuation of the political/economic ideology that made Trump inevitable.

      Trump was only inevitable because of self-fulfilling prophecy. His is a minority party, when support from the populace at large is concerned. Positive changes had been happening, like legalizing homosexual marriage (something that’s targeted under this regime for repeal, along with interracial relationships).

      And yet you blame ‘non-voters’ for all of the ills of fossil-fuel powered neo-liberal capitalism, and then have the cheek to call others short-sighted. Grow up.

      They share the blame, yes. Non-voters are the largest voting bloc and have been for decades. Their myopic refusal to meaningfully engage with the political tools of democracy, desiring only instant gratification and ego stroking instead, is why neo-libs have had any power whatsoever. That they helped usher in fascism is just the cherry on top of the shitty behavior.

      Grow up.

      Don’t help fascists.

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        You are entirely wrong regarding brexit voters.

        You are wrong regarding Trump.

        And no. when implicit in the act of voting is the giving of consent, it is entirely of course entirely reasonable not to vote for the continuation of the political economic ideology that made Trump inevitable.

        YOu have a lot to learn. You will not learn it now.

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          You are entirely wrong regarding brexit voters.

          You’re a Brexiteer, I take it? https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2053168018773964

          Sorry if the reality that a significant number of the Leave voters are just racists upsets you. The fact that Brexiteers made life harder for my family in the occupied counties rather upsets me.

          You are wrong regarding Trump.

          Care to clarify your meaning there and support it with anything?

          it is entirely of course entirely reasonable not to vote for the continuation of the political economic ideology that made Trump inevitable.

          This is very much looking like embracing the fallacy of Denying the Correlative. The choices in the US election were only:

          1. Fascism, or
          2. Not fascism

          There were no other options. It’s a two party FPTP system, making claims otherwise factually inaccurate. Refusing to vote against fascism was implicitly supporting fascism because refusing to vote has in recorded electoral history only ever helped the right-wing. It really is that simple.

          Refuse to oppose fascism in the bare minimum fashion (other action is required) and you’re intentionally enabling harm to those that fascists hate.

          You have a lot to learn. You will not learn it now.

          I’ve learned that a lot of people claiming to care about humanity are just myopic egotists and lack basic maths skills. What are you suggesting needs learning?