This was not inevitable. This is a war Israel chose. It could have been prevented. Diplomatic talks were ongoing when the bombers took off for Iran. Israel’s continuing, illegal, unjustified airstrikes are unlikely to achieve their stated aim – permanently ending Tehran’s presumed efforts to build nuclear weapons – and may accelerate it. They must stop now. Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.
This conflict is not limited, as was the case last year, to tit-for-tat exchanges and “precision strikes” on a narrow range of military targets. It’s reached a wholly different level. Potentially nothing is off the table. Civilians are being killed on both sides. Leaders are targets. The rhetoric is out of control. With Israel fighting on several fronts, and Iran’s battered regime backed against a wall, the Middle East is closer than ever to a disastrous conflagration.
Reasons can always be found to go to war. The roots of major conflicts often reach back decades – and this is true of the Israel-Iran vendetta, which dates to the 1979 Islamic revolution. The so-called “shadow war” between the two intensified in recent years. Yet all-out conflict had been avoided, until now. So who is principally to blame for this sudden, unprecedented explosion?
Answer: three angry old men whose behaviour raises serious doubts about their judgment, common sense, motives and even their sanity.
damn they just pretend the UK is not the country that fuel Jets over Iraq to facilitate the bombing. Or it is not the UK base in Cyprus and vessels that provide a command center and communication tool to facilitate the mission.
If you want to attack Iran and accelerate to a wwiii don’t shy from telling the truth about your involvement, we know it, you know it …
Don’t forget Putin…
Fuck thes old, power-hungry war-mongering pieces of excrement. Their death will be celebrated by millions.
Please put an age restriction on politicians, it would solev sooo much nonsense.
Grumpy old men.
Please put an age restriction on politicians, it would solev sooo much nonsense.
Yeah, people who are young enough to actually have to worry about the future.
Khameni didn’t want a war
This article is fine, but kind of superfluous.
We get it. Everyone can see this. If you don’t have actionable advice or some additional insight, you’re really just reporting that water is wet.
Unfortunately not everyone is aware that water is wet. And often there are groups who try and convince people otherwise.
I agree that more ideas need to be put into action that can actually accomplish change for the better, but that requires that people be informed first.
Khamenei maybe an angry old man considering his country is facing an existential threat but Netanyahu is a wanted war criminal and Trump is a rapist with nefarious ties to the notorious Epstein
You are out of touch if you think Trump is worse than Khamenei
My Iranian ass spending minutes to get my VPN working so I can access lemmy and watch people whitewash the man responsible for all my misery only to shit on Netanyahu and Trump:
whitewash the man responsible for all my misery
Mohammad Reza Pahlavi?
Ali Khamenei.
Had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Iranian democracy in 1953.
Didn’t the CIA do that
To install Pahlavi as Shah, absolutely.
This was in an effort to keep Iran from selling oil to the USSR.
So it justifies the crimes of the mullahs? Why do you want it to seem that America is the devil and the mullahs are OK? Can’t them both be bad in your mind?
I mean screw the men responsible for your misery, but Iran is objectively the good guy when it comes to Palestine. We don’t have quite as much opportunity to shit on Khomeini now that Assad isn’t around, but we still hate him don’t worry.
From what I understand from your message it looks like to me that this is all something like a game for you people to virtue signal.
Edit: Funny how you got Khomeini and Khamenei mixed up. It shows how much you know and care about the matter.
From what I understand from your message it looks like to me that this is all something like a game for you people to virtue signal.
No? What do you even mean by whitewashing him? The atrocities he commits just aren’t relevant to the topic at hand, so they’re not brought up.
Edit: Funny how you got Khomeini and Khamenei mixed up.
Wow, TIL. I thought their names were both Khomeini but that makes more sense.
Putin has a day off?
He’s too busy begging these three for help.
Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.
Apparently defending yourself is the peak of insanity now.
Angry old men … ruling the biggest countries in the world … and all of them not caring what they are going to do or not do because they’re going to be dead or senile or incapable to do anything within the next ten years.
blaming the top government officials only is stupid. Thet completelyignore that they got voted in and have majority support among their population. At least Iran has less of a choice, and even then was negotiating a deal and agreed to one in the past!
Illegal, maybe. But… Unjustified? Maybe the author is unaware of Isreal’s recent divulgence of Iran’s plan to sprint for a nuke while its militant religious zealots in Hamas and Hizbullah are hobbled? Or how openly the mullahs state that they will use it?
Bruh when Israel can just do a genocide and bomb countries left and right with no consequences AND they have nukes, it’s perfectly normal to want nukes to even the odds. Nothing justified about any of Israel’s crimes.
Never thought a lemmy.ml user would not be campist and see the evil of the leaders of Iran. Thank you my friend. It’s good to see that not everyone on Lemmy is supporting Khamenei and his regime. It’s though watching people white washing the regime that has ruined my homeland, Iran.
see the evil of the leaders of Iran
I remember when Americans purged Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria of Evil.
Funny how Khamenei’s regime has also done their share of intervention in the same places.
Afghanistan: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liwa_Fatemiyoun
Iraq: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_intervention_in_Iraq_(2014–present)
Syria: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war
Lebonan: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_influence_in_Lebanon
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I am not pro Isis. I am an exmuslim Atheist. Isis happened to get in the way of the regime and that’s why they fought it. They wanted themselves to influence and rule. Arguing with you seems to be pointless. You accused me of supporting people who would kill me because I am queer and also left Islam. I’m blocking you.
I mean, given the attacks I can see why they would feel nuclear weapons are necessary.
Nobody is pulling this shit on North Korea.
Illegal, maybe. But… Unjustified? Maybe the author is unaware of Isreal’s recent divulgence of Iran’s plan to sprint for a nuke while its militant religious zealots in Hamas and Hizbullah are hobbled? Or how openly the mullahs state that they will use it?
citations needed!
Yes the mullahs want nukes. Source? I am Iranian.
I’m sorry but that is the most insane reply I have ever read in response to a perfectly valid question for citations. “Trust me bro! I’m Iranian!”
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The mullahs have never shown the people any actual usage of the nuclear program. We are having planned blackout outs everyday for almost 1 hour and a half. So they don’t use the nuclear infrastructure to make up for the electricity shortage. From the day I was born Iran was sanctioned for it’s nuclear program but I have never seen an actual usecase of it outside of regime propaganda.
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From the beginning of the regime they made many enemies. But Israel was the one they vowed to earase from the map. So if someday Iran makes nukes Israel will be the most in danger.
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Khamenei seems to legitimately believe that he is some kind of chosen person to make things ready for the 12th Imam (Mahdi) to come. Yeah it sounds wild but remember, Khamenei is the leader of a theocracy. So to “make things ready” they tried to intervene and influence in the middle east. Assad in Syria, Hashad al Shabi in Iraq, Hezbollah in Lebonan, etc.
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Better men than these shitmuppets have tried
I think many people learned the wrong lesson from GWB’s Iraq War. It was presented as (among other things) a way to stop an enemy of the USA from obtaining nuclear weapons and it was a mistake, so they conclude that using force to stop enemies of the USA from obtaining nuclear weapons is a mistake. However, using force (if necessary) to stop enemies of the USA from obtaining nuclear weapons is a prudent idea and the problem with that Iraq War was that it was not actually fought for that purpose. GWB was the boy who cried wolf but real wolves still exist.
Zionists being pro-imperialism. Who woulda thunk?!
This freaking assholes are going to do the thing that the last string of Putin’s morality didnt allow him to do and give a white card to any future psycopath to use nuclear weapons.
Russia and the USA created this monsters. We need to deweaponize the fuck out of all of them before it is to late.
