Emerson Colindres had no criminal record and was attending appointment with ICE when detained
A teenage student and soccer stand-out was arrested by immigration authorities four days after his high school graduation ceremony in Ohio earlier this month, and deported to Honduras this week, his family has said.
Emerson Colindres, 19, had no criminal record and was attending a regularly scheduled appointment with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Cincinnati when he was detained on 4 June, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer.
His parents told the newspaper he was deported on Wednesday to a country he has not lived in since he was 8 years old.
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I guess we have different values.
I don’t see it as a moral good to kick someone out of the country if they would make a good citizen. I don’t see it as an economic good to remove a productive member of society. I don’t see how the ongoing ICE campaign to instill fear in our immigrant population is good for our communities.
Just because it’s the law doesn’t make it right.
You said it better than I’ve ever heard, and what you’ve said is going to become part of my talking points against all the bullshit and cruelty of ICE and Trump’s war on non-white people.
You’re why I’m on Lemmy.
Yes, but not having proper paperwork doesn’t make you a good citizen. The kid had 10 years to make it right. He didn’t.
Yeah that damn 8 year old should have known better…
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8 + 10 = ?
Maybe you can help me understand how kicking this kid out makes our country better?
It helps Pee-wee German get it up, I guess? That dude wants a white country. They don’t care about the law, they ultimately want no immigration. Unless they are white immigrants.
The kid already showed his attitude by ignoring the law for 10 years. How did he appear in the country in the first place?
Why would he be going to an immigration check in if he was breaking the law?
You didn’t answer the question, and that’s what I’m really interested in.
How does this make our country better?
The kid had 10 years to do what exactly?
No idea. Some bureaucratic shit. He obviously lacked some papers.
Sure, but im curious what you think an underage child can do about it themselves.
Depends on what documents he missed.
Walk me through a ten year old obtaining any legal documents pertaining to their citizenship in the US.
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I don’t know if you know this, but 10 years is not enough time to get citizenship I the US
The relevance is two-fold:
The American people were promised the deportation of dangerous criminals. Judging by the fact that this kid was busy working on his education and excelling in community sports tells us he likely wasn’t engaged in criminal activities, we know where he’s been. This highlights the failure of the mass immigration plan and how devastating it can be on the lives of innocent people.
With all that being said, why are tax dollars being wasted on this?
Howcome he is deported but his parents have not been? I mean they must be illegal to if they brought him here when he was 8.
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I might surprise you but people don’t vote for the law as written but indeed for plans and promises made by law makers.
I remember our last election. Most people dont even vote for the “plans and promises.” They vote for the perceived “lesser evil.” -It’s incredibly irritating for those of us who care about policy.
People are bad at democracy; that doesn’t surprise me. But that’s irrelevant. Laws are important. Plans, promises and hopes – are not.
The spirit of the law is a very real thing and is taken into account by judges all the time.
Regardless of what your legal education is, the fact is that a current batch of politicians were elected because they promised to tackle crime and illegal immigration, and if there’s communities where home invasions, car jackings, burglaries are a somewhat regular occurrence then wasting state resources to hurriedly deport high school kids is stupid and wasteful.
“The law” is not some divinely inspired rules. It is what we use to affect outcomes we want. It is irrelevant in a discussion of right and wrong.
When it comes to a discussion over whether somebody ought or ought not be allowed to be in the country the person matters more than the law.
These people were doing no harm and were actively participating in their community. The law is wrong if it says to deport them.
I understand your position but it doesn’t work this way anymore for a century or something. Somewhere after the Imperialistic War the borders were closed around the world and people were forced into obligatory citizenship.
Modern law demands permission to cross a border.
God you sound like a bad '80s sci-fi where a post-apocalyptic group of children worship “the laaaaaw” and talk about things being “foretold”…
The “law” does no such thing. It doesn’t have wants or needs. It does not exist without humans since laws are written by humans and based on human morality. It does not exist to serve itself, it exists to serve society.
Deporting people who have been here for a friggin’ decade, who are paying taxes, who are participating in society, and who have done no wrong, is wrong. I’ve never seen anybody defend that as being “the right thing to do” - typically they just talk about “the law” at that point.
It does not matter what the law says. If the law says they should be deported then the law is wrong and ought to be changed.
Because this:
Administration officials insist that only criminals and those with adjudicated final orders of removal are being targeted. Recent data shows a surge in people with no criminal history being targeted. Being in the US without legal status is a civil offense, not a crime.
There just aren’t enough criminal immigrants to reach our lofty goals. Turns out people motivated enough to leave their nation of birth and come here despite all the obstacles generally don’t want to fuck around once they arrive.
We can kick out immigrants and restrict international students until the cows come home. We will be worse for it because the US consistently fails to educate and up skill our own citizens en masse.
Insisting and citing a law are completely different things.
Laws are important, insisting officials – are not.
You are defending tryanny. Think about that a bit.
Laws are important. Heh. Maybe ice should try following the law then?
I defend the law. You defend the selective applicability of law (don’t you dare to use the law to the soccer player!)
Yes, they should.
Do you defend early American slavery? Just wondering, I mean it was the law and all.
You have objections against current USA laws demanding some paperwork to live, study and work in the country?
You didn’t answer my question, but I have objections to a whole mess of laws. Ones that let money move more freely than people among them.
Your question is offtop. But if you insist: I’m not a fan of any kind of slavery regardless of place or time.
So you think that people younger than 18 should be granted live and work permission simply by the fact of their presence in the country? All documents should be dismissed for young people?
Depends: If you want to show that officials are blatantly lying the stuff they say is indeed the relevant information.
The law is a ass – a idiot.
As per the 4th amendment, paperwork is not important.
If you don’t like it, leave.
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Deleted their comment after people expressed their disagreement. The sign of someone who is not-at-all a fucking coward.
Don’t feed them.
More like provoking, but that’s fair.
Never heard about moderators?
Why keep your other comments up though? You don’t remove a cancer by cutting out part of it.