• MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    do the same things the republicans

    I missed the part where the Democrats were cutting social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And repealing the ACA. And attacking LGBTQ people. And deploying the military against American civilians. And sending people to foreign gulags en mass without trial. And attacking voting rights.

    Yep, they sure are the same.

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      While you are 100% correct, the Dems could definitely fight much harder to get what they claim they want. My son, and his friends, all felt betrayed when Biden’s college loan forgiveness program was shot down, and they just said “Oh well,” and dropped the subject, rather than fight for another way. They felt they had been lied to for their vote, and when they were told they couldn’t have loan forgiveness just before the 2024 election, you can see why they weren’t real thrilled to be voting for the guy who wouldn’t help them, but would gladly help Netanyahu commit genocide.

      If only the Dems were as committed to forcing their agenda through as they are to having one of their ancient, old school, neo-liberal losers as president. That seems to be all they really care about.

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        12 hours ago

        they just said “Oh well,” and dropped the subject, rather than fight for another way. They felt they had been lied to for their vote, and when they were told they couldn’t have loan forgiveness just before the 2024 election

        I don’t totally disagree with your premise, but the fact is that they didn’t just say oh well and drop the subject. They proceeded to use other statutory authority and forgave a shitload of loans, even after the incredibly stupid scotus ruling. They tried the big thing, got shot down, and then tried a bunch of little things that worked for a lot of people. Bidens biggest mistake there was respecting a SCOTUS decision, which shouldnt hold any weight until we remove the traitors currently sitting on the court.

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      2 days ago

      That was what Trump campaigned on wasn’t it? So contrary to democrats who usually don’t deliver in their promises Trump can at least says that he tries damn hard to deliver on his promises.

      I know this will be conflated to me being supportive of what he does. So let me clarify that I’m not endorsing it, I’m just stating the fact that Trump goes so far as to break the law in order to deliver his promises, while democrats work really hard to maintain the status quo even while having legal and political power to make real change. This is part of his appeal, a detail which should not be lost on democrats.

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        2 days ago

        So contrary to democrats who usually don’t deliver in their promises Trump can at least says that he tries damn hard to deliver on his promises.

        I know this will be conflated to me being supportive of what he does. So let me clarify that I’m not endorsing it, I’m just stating the fact that Trump goes so far as to break the law in order to deliver his promises, while democrats work really hard to maintain the status quo even while having legal and political power to make real change. This is part of his appeal, a detail which should not be lost on democrats.

        We’re pretty much in agreement here. I simply disagree that Democrats do the same things as Republicans when in office. While I may vehemently disagree with most of their strategy, the Democratic party isnt nearly as big of a threat as the GOP.

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          Same thing in terms of being bought by lobbyists (although Elon’s influence is unprecedented).

          Same thing in terms of refusing to reform one of the worst voting systems on the planet.

          Same in terms of insider trading (Trump is more blatant and doesn’t mind if he tanks the economy in the process).

          Same in terms of ignoring https://patrioticmillionaires.org/

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            2 days ago

            They are literally not as bad as the GOP on all of those issues, and you even pointed that out on half of them.

            I stand by my point.