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  • Ice@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 days ago

    That depends on what you mean by integrate. There are many clear examples where it makes no sense to enforce homogenous legislation. Europe is a big place, and it makes sense to have different systems in different places.

    Take tires for instance - in the Scandinavian countries we require winter tires for the season, something which would make no sense in Italy for instance.

    • gian @lemmy.grys.itEnglish
      2·
      18 hours ago

      That depends on what you mean by integrate. There are many clear examples where it makes no sense to enforce homogenous legislation. Europe is a big place, and it makes sense to have different systems in different places.

      No, there are no place where it make no sense. Granted that you need to write a more complex law, but in the end it is nothing impossible.

      Take tires for instance - in the Scandinavian countries we require winter tires for the season, something which would make no sense in Italy for instance.

      Just for the record, even in Italy the winter tires are required for the season (but we can just have chains on board and we are good).

      • Ice@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        14 hours ago

        Just for the record, even in Italy the winter tires are required for the season (but we can just have chains on board and we are good).

        Double checking and it doesn’t seem like it? Then again I don’t live in Italy. Here in Sweden you’ll face a fine of ~2000kr (roughly 200€) per tire on your vehicle that is out of spec.

        https://www.europe-consommateurs.eu/en/travelling-motor-vehicles/motor-vehicles/winter-tyres-in-europe.html

        Granted that you need to write a more complex law, but in the end it is nothing impossible.

        …and thus it is much simpler to handle these kinds of regulations at a lower level. No need for everyone everywhere to agree, people can have rules that work for them where they live, folks are happier and don’t have to struggle against a system run by bureaucrats so far away they have no idea what reality on the ground is (and they can’t, it’s impossible to account for every scenario centrally). Even on a municipal level certain regulations differ, and that’s completely ok!

        • gian @lemmy.grys.itEnglish
          1·
          22 minutes ago

          Just for the record, even in Italy the winter tires are required for the season (but we can just have chains on board and we are good).

          Double checking and it doesn’t seem like it? Then again I don’t live in Italy. Here in Sweden you’ll face a fine of ~2000kr (roughly 200€) per tire on your vehicle that is out of spec. https://www.europe-consommateurs.eu/en/travelling-motor-vehicles/motor-vehicles/winter-tyres-in-europe.html

          Well, I live in Italy and they are required at least in all the northern regions and over a certain altitude in all the others from 15th November to 15th April. Then in some regions these limits are differents as you have seen.

          So we in Italy already have a law that consider a different situation for the same rule.

          Granted that you need to write a more complex law, but in the end it is nothing impossible.

          …and thus it is much simpler to handle these kinds of regulations at a lower level. No need for everyone everywhere to agree, people can have rules that work for them where they live, folks are happier and don’t have to struggle against a system run by bureaucrats so far away they have no idea what reality on the ground is (and they can’t, it’s impossible to account for every scenario centrally). Even on a municipal level certain regulations differ, and that’s completely ok!

          So it is not that difficult, just write a directive that say: “All the member states should make laws that require winter tires in every place it is deemed necessary”.

          I don’t really think that making EU more integrated is impossibile